ok, rainny day, just got off from dyno, just found out my stock ECU is a piece of crap, since i'm running 14.8, 13.8 and throughout the band, running above 12.1.

my bud can't do anything about it with the SAFC, I need a flash from Al....

So i'm coming home, it's pouring rain, get to the house on low gas, and the damn car stalls out.

I try to restart it but it wont start. I try it again, it just dies. Third time, I get it to start, and I'm like ok, it's nothing.

Turn the car off, and I thought, hell lets go get some gas, it might be that I'm low on gas.

Turn it back on, I get a cell code. I went to the gas station, got the gas, I filled up full at 10 gallons.

Goto the autozone, guy pulls the code for me. It's p0340 & p0355.

it's the cranshaft and camshaft position sensor malfunction.

Then I call the dealership to arrange it to have it there. My SAFC is set at +/-0% all the way.

now, I drive home from autozone, I hear this awful noise on the right side of the engine.

I'm thinking it's the rear swaybar hitting the exhaust pipe. (hotchkis, just installed today).

It sounds like a knocking sound, but it's not as high pitch sound as the knocking sounds, and it only happens on the low RPM below 3000 rpm. it's very metallic sounding and doesn't sound like the engine knocking sound, but I'm scurred...

And when I'm turning the car, it sounds 2 metal things in a box is going up and down hitting each other.

it's not, the noise is coming from where the cam gears are at. it's pissing me off because i can't see anything wrong with it.

The Cell light actually cleared itself after like 6th start then the sound started.

The car feels like it's limping. even i'm boosting, it feels as though it's not going anywhere, like as if you have a slipping clutch.

Sorry about the long post, I just want to be a bit specific about what happend.

here are my mods.

TBE - no cat.

Hallman MBC - was set at 21psi, turned down to 18psi now.

Stock everything else.

SFAC- set for stock at +/- 0%


Hotchkis swaybar
Espelir ASD springs
ACT clutch

weather : raining hard, cold.

 

well, from what I've searched, yes I did search and talked to people, it's primarily the car jumping timing.

suggestions were:

replace sensor
replace timing belt
replace cams.

due to:

moisture in the sensors (car wash, rain)
aftermarket cams (not setting up correctly)
jumping timing due to 02 sensor misreading
jumping timing due to running too lean.


any help will be great about the codes and the damn noise. It's not the code that worries me, it's the noise. I don't want it to knock.

I don't trust my SAFC knock sensor, but it's actually at around 6 at normal driving at 10psi and below boost.

 

why can your friend not lean out the car with the afcII.. sounds like you have alot bigger problems with those codes pulling... but why dont you take the afcII to a dyno.

 

I got the same damn codes the other day. I took the car to the car wash as well so don't know whether that was the cause. Could be a coincidence. If moisture is an issue why the heck is the hood like that. Not sure if it's the 02 sensor or a vaccuum leak, etc. Cams not setting up correctly? Does this mean the cams are fawk up? I've never had the problem until now.

This car is !!!!!!!!!. I'm about to the point of ditching it.

DTC P0171: System too Lean
DTC P0340: Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit
DTC P0335: Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit

 

Those codes are common and a number of things tend to set them off.

Your obviously way too lean. And with the car dying on you I wonder if the root of the problem isn't the fuel pump taking a ****. The car is probably in limp mode because the A/F ratios are so off the chart that the ECU can't add fuel to compensate so it is protecting the engine.

On the engine noise. Check to see if the Serpentine belt is tight and that the tesioner is working. Also, with the car running look at the pulleys to see if they are running true. Especially the crank pulley because they sometimes seperate and will cause this noise.

 

The car is already way too lean from what I am reading.

 

Most likely water getting in the cam sensor. If it happens regularly try using dielectric grease all inside the connector to keep water out.

position sensors usually are set one and both end up setting. The too lean is probably setting because the ECU doesn't know position to fire injectors, etc, etc.

 

plokivos,
This wouldn't be the first crank pulley that seperated or came loose. The fact that it was just on the Dyno only backs up the posibbility. When they go it's usually at high RPM and or load.

 

the thing about my car being lean is that, I had absolutely no problem with it for the last year.

no knock, no detonation. The car ran strong and perfect. I had absolutely no problems with it being that lean for some reason.

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i'll goto mitsubishi tomorrow. But I'm just worried before that. I want to have some sorta idea before I get to the dealership. Our dealerships around here aren't that good.

 

? the reason for my bud to not add fuel to stock ecu was that safc isn't that good adding fuel. When you add fuel to the stock ecu, they tend to hit boost cut or fuel cut.

He suggested that I should get a flash and fine tune it with safc... which i heard Flash hates safc.

 

ok, well, here is another question.

How bad is it for me to drive this thing. I was warned not to drive it.

I've already called the tow company, it'll be $100 to the closest dealership.

but mitsu said they'll "cover" it under "warranty". Whatever that means.

They said if it was the timing belt, they'll cover the warranty and hook it up. But if not, I have to pay them lots and lots of money for crappy workmanship that'll fail in couple of months.

That and my first born.

So, I'm going to the dealership tomorrow, with my sperm sample to make sure I could have kids, and they'll take a "look" at my car.

I think I'll go take a look at the evo 9, or 05 evo while I'm there....

 

I'd look to see what the noise is before you go in. I still think it is one of the accessory or crank pulley.

 

yeh, as soon as I'm off work, 7 in the morning, i'll go open the thing up and see what's going on.

I've checked the timing belt, they seem fine and tight.

it does sound like something is loose but only when I'm decelerating or turning...

I really hope it's my swaybar hitting the exhaust pipe or something else.

thanks timcatz.

 

Can you dupicate the noise while sitting still? OR is it only when driving?
Decel and turning only sounds like Transfer Case.

 

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it makes that sound when i'm sitting in my car, reving and when it decels...

if it's my transfer case, i'm going to go cry.

actually a thought occured to me about the transfer case, but really the noise is coming from far right of the engine more than the left of the engine where the t-case is at....


oh jebus...