Installation went fine, except for fab'in sometingup for the factory mount, it just does not line up. I wish I could see some hard numbers on the performance issues, come on dynoflash, where you at? I have 2 friends that are running this intercooler, both of which have had no complaints, except for the mounting issues.
I think most people have to realize that the old DSM crowd has and always will be known for being notoriously CHEAP. Fact is, these cars are not expensive to mod, for the power gained, always has been that way. But now that the EVO has hit the shores, that's not the case anymore.

Perfect example, looking for boost controllers long time ago. Searched around at MACHV. Go to their regular site, Hallmans for 10 to 15 bucks cheaper for the same part on their MACHEVO site?

 

Hi,

Wanted to chime in regarding intercoolers.

The majority of intercoolers being manufacturered by these knock-off type companies are adapted for use from cores originally designed for diesel truck to flow oil. That's right, oil (and some coolant).

We have tested many many intercooler designs for the Subaru Impreza, especially TMIC designs, because a TMIC type car is very sensitive to intercooler design and performance. We have even tested some of the ebay designs, as well as various other "name brand" TMICs floating throughout the world (don't forget the GC8 has been out for years). I'd say 9 out of the 10 intercoolers we have tested from these knockoff companies are actually way worse than stock. There is that 10% that actually perform well, but usually this is because the manufacturer has some concept of performance and is reflected in the price. Even some "name brand" intercoolers turned out to be pretty bad.

Factors such as cfm, efficiency, outlet temp, flow temp, heat soaking, weight, durability, etc. etc. all go into making a high quality intercooler.

Bottom line? You get what you pay for. I would personally never put a knock-off intercooler on any car that I'm not prepared to ingest a fin into the engine (yes it has happendd)

Cheers,

Gary
Gruppe-S

 

I do have the SS autochrome intercooler i bought it for 300 Bucks WHY ??? couse it was cheap and if it was garbage its not that big of a loss but in this case the intercooler works fine it was pressure tested and the welding on it its actually good bettter then some other Brand name intercoolers so far soo good we will see and yes the tabs were off but other then that it was a good investment

 

IF anyone is interested to see how this intercooler performs on the dyno compared to the "BRAND" name intercoolers i would take that challange IF any of the big companies can spare an intercooler i can video tape the whole process pay for the dyno time and see which one performs better at the same conditions and parts installed on the car my car made 454 WHP with the SS AUTOCHROME intercooler lets see what it would make with the AMS Or any other brand name intercoolers out there... IF i gain more then 10-15 WHP more with my mods and my turbo kit i would gladly pay for the intercooler PROVIDED

 

was Al the one who tuned your car with this new FMIC? he said that he tuned a greddy turbo kit evo with this SS IC.was it yours? cause he said it was worse.i'm so confused now

 

Just a little strategy for the guys looking to save big money on parts but still have a heart about "the american dream" :::

buy USED namebrand parts.
We aren't modding high end exotic cars, parts are everywhere online. I don't think manufacturers like ams could have anything negative to say about that.

 

Buying used parts? Hell my Galant has its fair share of used parts. Im glad to see people buy our stuff used from another customer when hes going back to stock or what not. Thats one way you can judge how good your product is and how much its wanted, is by how well it sells when posted up for sale used for a good price.

Take my Web Cams in my galant for instance. They SUCK, bad, and most people know this. I would have a VERY HARD time trying to sell them at even 250-275 dollars. Now if you post a set of HKS 272s for sale for even 375-400, youll have people knocking down your door in a feable attempt to get to them first before the other guy.

The more time passes, the less worried myself and everyone at AMS is about this SSAC knockoff intercooler. It was just a shock to us to see someone copy our product, as this is the first time its really happened. We are taking steps to make sure this doesnt happen again.

 

Good luck in kicking thAIR A$#@,, i have a pretty good attorney. if you need one just pm me.


AMS products will always be respected for years to come. Don't let some fly by night company rattle your teeth. They have already crossed the line on your intellectual property with their attempt to fraud the public. It doesn't take much to create a page on your site for all the unhappy customers they have created. Offer a discount for the ss autocrome cores and use the cores as evidence in court.

 

What are the specs of the intercooler? Brand name intercooling means little (GReddy is the perfect example). It's about about the configuration of the core, FPI, etc...

 

[QUOTE=Coolguy949] (GReddy is the perfect example). QUOTE]

what do you mean?

 

well, the greddy V-SPL uses an extruded tube....basically it passes the air right through it with minimal time in the tube. The longer the charged air is in the tube, the more it's cooled. Using an extruded tube means there are no "fins" the tube has these little grooves that stick out of it and cool the air (minimally). Most users of the V-SPL first notice a throttle response and boost response difference compared to the stock intercooler. This is due to the charged air moving through the core fast and pressurizing the system more quickly than it did stock.



I'm not sure the exact details on the R-SPL GReddy core, but it probably doesn't use an extruded tube. I'm sure it has internal fins, but the question is how good are they?

GReddy advertises the V-SPL for low boost applications, which is how they get away with having an extruded tube. A turbo functioning on the bottom end of it's efficiency range isnt' going to generate much heat (relatively) compared to something running high boost. The higher you spin a turbine wheel, the more heat is created (friction).

Rob

 

Wanna see the SSAutochrome IC? Here are some pics. It is IDENTICAL to the AMS.

 

Rob,

You keep bringing up the Greddy Intercooler, when very few or any EVO owners use the Greddy intercooler. Please comment on the SSautochrome intercooler? How does the AMS and Buschur stack up against your intercooler the Nisei? As those are the two intercooler that everyone favors. Do you have test data on those two intercoolers in comparsion to the Nisei?

 

It is a different core

 

The GReddy intercooler is very popular here in SoCal, it's so readily available that we could get one right away.

We're actually in the process of aquiring more intercoolers to test. We will be purchasing an AMS core soon to test. The SSautochrome intercooler is something that we have recently found out about too. We put testing on a halt for the last few weeks while we developed the battery tray and are working on the pipe kits. I've been talking with Kevin and we're both very eager to do more testing, which we're very very sure the Nisei will come up on top.