ssautochrome intercooler
This thread is really bugging me. It is almost disbelief they did this to AMS because I know we are right around the corner it will probably happen to us in the near future. I have been thinking about this all day long. Copy cat companies are really look down upon in this industry. They kill the market and economy we are trying to build. I will post more thougths later, but I really wish we could stop this kind of stuff.
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
This thread is really bugging me. It is almost disbelief they did this to AMS because I know we are right around the corner it will probably happen to us in the near future. I have been thinking about this all day long. Copy cat companies are really look down upon in this industry. They kill the market and economy we are trying to build. I will post more thougths later, but I really wish we could stop this kind of stuff.
I know of several of these companies buying US built products and sending them over to China. I can guarantee it isn't the same quailty. I have seen some of this stuff in person and it doesn't come close.
Also the core they are using to copy the AMS FMIC most likely isn't the same. I am pretty sure that AMS core in the US is right around $300 at a Manufacturer price.
Also the core they are using to copy the AMS FMIC most likely isn't the same. I am pretty sure that AMS core in the US is right around $300 at a Manufacturer price.
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
This thread is really bugging me. It is almost disbelief they did this to AMS because I know we are right around the corner it will probably happen to us in the near future. I have been thinking about this all day long. Copy cat companies are really look down upon in this industry. They kill the market and economy we are trying to build. I will post more thougths later, but I really wish we could stop this kind of stuff.
Last edited by blitz118; May 11, 2005 at 08:19 PM.
I dont know $hit! but I feel for AMS! This sucks!
Have you guys seen the new hyunda or what ever it is called! The front is a copy of the acura tl and the rear is a copy of the honda accord! Same concept!
Hell if I was in AMS shoes I would constantly open new ebay accounts and bid on all the items and dont pay for them!
That may sound teadious, but it would fck their nockoffs sales!
Evo make-over May 27th! Cant wait! HE Heeee
Have you guys seen the new hyunda or what ever it is called! The front is a copy of the acura tl and the rear is a copy of the honda accord! Same concept!
Hell if I was in AMS shoes I would constantly open new ebay accounts and bid on all the items and dont pay for them!
That may sound teadious, but it would fck their nockoffs sales!Evo make-over May 27th! Cant wait! HE Heeee
Originally Posted by J8dailo
its just like buying over the counter drugs... those with brand news obviously is more expensive and those without isnt... but they both use the same ingredient and have the same effect...i don't see why not get the cheaper kind
Originally Posted by TheGVR4kid
It's funny to see a cut-throat internet parts dealer complain about bottom lines and price points. When it's guys like you who settle for making $10-20 on parts that have brought the entire industry down. MSRP's don't even matter anymore when you guys ***** out parts as soon as you get them. SS and this whole generation of ebay sellers and forum vendors are one in the same.
There is no longer the ability to make good money on standard hardparts, you can't blame SSautochrome for reaching out and manufacturing their own parts, it's the only way to make good money anymore.
While it sucks for a small, homegrown business like AMS, the bigger picture is that vendors sell Greddy and HKS parts for less than 5% over cost, it's completely whored out. So what does SS do? They make their own and now they're back to making the profit margin that they would have if all of these eWarriors weren't working out of their houses making pennies on the dollar.
Look at AMS or Buschur's prices on cams or bov's or turbo timers, and then look at yours NOLIMIT, how come their prices are so much higher? Because you sold out for the bottom line. You are in no position to shlt on SS, guys like you have brought this industry down just as much, if not more.
There is no longer the ability to make good money on standard hardparts, you can't blame SSautochrome for reaching out and manufacturing their own parts, it's the only way to make good money anymore.
While it sucks for a small, homegrown business like AMS, the bigger picture is that vendors sell Greddy and HKS parts for less than 5% over cost, it's completely whored out. So what does SS do? They make their own and now they're back to making the profit margin that they would have if all of these eWarriors weren't working out of their houses making pennies on the dollar.
Look at AMS or Buschur's prices on cams or bov's or turbo timers, and then look at yours NOLIMIT, how come their prices are so much higher? Because you sold out for the bottom line. You are in no position to shlt on SS, guys like you have brought this industry down just as much, if not more.
My 2nd point is I did not kill the market, I only sell enough to pay little enough to make some decent money on things. I keep up. I wouldnt be selling clutches on the forum if they were over 500$ You think AMS sells clutches mail order??? If they do the people arent on EvoM. Your fellow members are cheap as hell. Alot of people here are honest cool people, but almost every day I get a PM from someone who wants/expects to pay even less then what I already sell it for. The people who killed the market are the people selling parts from they bedrooms, not me my friend. I sell clutches for 480$ and I still make enough money to make it worth the 250$ a month I spend as a vendor. Open your eyes, I still need to cover credit card fees and my own personal commission and the business still gets paid.
I guess you should just buy your parts from the manufacturers and show your point. Pay full MSRP for everything. I'd love to see that.
The fact that parts are sold less then MSRP makes sense. Hasport for example sells on 3 different pricing levels. So if I'm at the deepest level and I want to sell mounts at Jobber with free shipping and still make 20% then thats my business. We live in a capatalist market my friend. IF WE ALL SOLD THINGS FOR THE SAME EXACT PRICE THEN COMPETITION WOULD BE NON EXISTENT
Adidas Superstar II retail for 60.00. Guess how much Foot Locker sells them for?
64.99.
Must be nice to get away with selling products for 4.99 OVER the price on Adidas's website............
64.99.
Must be nice to get away with selling products for 4.99 OVER the price on Adidas's website............
Originally Posted by NOLIMITMOTORS
Hmmm lets get a couple things straight. WE have a storefront and we're in NY, where the rent is over 2k a month. Cost of living here is extremely expensive. We have this thing called overhead and we need to male a certain amount of money to cover it. I (20 years old) wouldnt be driving and paying for my own 2005 evo while also going to school full time if we were selling parts at 5% above cost. My boss wouldnt have a street legal nissan skyline, 2004 G35x, and a brand new house at the age of 24 if we were giving parts away. YOUR IGNORACE IS OBVIOUS MY FRIEND. All we do is sell parts online and in store, we dont so installs, we outsource them to other shops. Since we sell tons of parts we get better deals on things, better then shops like AMS and Buschur. We pay less, trust me. Turbotrix buys from me. Buschur and AMS buy from distributors but not nearly as much as I do. I sell 50-75 ACt clutches a month and that gets me at a better price then a shop who has a race car, fabricates custom parts, and does major labor. Go to turbotrix my friend, ask for MIke, ask him if they stock any parts. They dont, shops like that buy from places like me.
My 2nd point is I did not kill the market, I only sell enough to pay little enough to make some decent money on things. I keep up. I wouldnt be selling clutches on the forum if they were over 500$ You think AMS sells clutches mail order??? If they do the people arent on EvoM. Your fellow members are cheap as hell. Alot of people here are honest cool people, but almost every day I get a PM from someone who wants/expects to pay even less then what I already sell it for. The people who killed the market are the people selling parts from they bedrooms, not me my friend. I sell clutches for 480$ and I still make enough money to make it worth the 250$ a month I spend as a vendor. Open your eyes, I still need to cover credit card fees and my own personal commission and the business still gets paid.
I guess you should just buy your parts from the manufacturers and show your point. Pay full MSRP for everything. I'd love to see that.
The fact that parts are sold less then MSRP makes sense. Hasport for example sells on 3 different pricing levels. So if I'm at the deepest level and I want to sell mounts at Jobber with free shipping and still make 20% then thats my business. We live in a capatalist market my friend. IF WE ALL SOLD THINGS FOR THE SAME EXACT PRICE THEN COMPETITION WOULD BE NON EXISTENT
My 2nd point is I did not kill the market, I only sell enough to pay little enough to make some decent money on things. I keep up. I wouldnt be selling clutches on the forum if they were over 500$ You think AMS sells clutches mail order??? If they do the people arent on EvoM. Your fellow members are cheap as hell. Alot of people here are honest cool people, but almost every day I get a PM from someone who wants/expects to pay even less then what I already sell it for. The people who killed the market are the people selling parts from they bedrooms, not me my friend. I sell clutches for 480$ and I still make enough money to make it worth the 250$ a month I spend as a vendor. Open your eyes, I still need to cover credit card fees and my own personal commission and the business still gets paid.
I guess you should just buy your parts from the manufacturers and show your point. Pay full MSRP for everything. I'd love to see that.
The fact that parts are sold less then MSRP makes sense. Hasport for example sells on 3 different pricing levels. So if I'm at the deepest level and I want to sell mounts at Jobber with free shipping and still make 20% then thats my business. We live in a capatalist market my friend. IF WE ALL SOLD THINGS FOR THE SAME EXACT PRICE THEN COMPETITION WOULD BE NON EXISTENT
You do realize that when you run a business, you're into a whole new ball game with taxes with the government????
And the point about selling products for lower cost, yeah sure you make less but if you multiply it by volume, you still make money. Example, most vendors want a profit of $100 on an exhaust system, they sell only 1, you guys on the other hand are willing to go as low as $50 profit on the system and sell 4, you make $200 profit, so right there because of lower profit you end up making more, make sense?
Volume speaks a lot . . .
And yeah a lot of items can be written off in a business, including vehicles
And yes, these internet pricings are killing the market for the local vendors. Think of interstate commerce as you guys claiming China underselling guys in the U.S . . . .
nebo
Originally Posted by NOLIMITMOTORS
We live in a capatalist market my friend.
Originally Posted by NOLIMITMOTORS
Hmmm lets get a couple things straight. WE have a storefront and we're in NY, where the rent is over 2k a month. Cost of living here is extremely expensive. We have this thing called overhead and we need to male a certain amount of money to cover it. I (20 years old) wouldnt be driving and paying for my own 2005 evo while also going to school full time if we were selling parts at 5% above cost. My boss wouldnt have a street legal nissan skyline, 2004 G35x, and a brand new house at the age of 24 if we were giving parts away. YOUR IGNORACE IS OBVIOUS MY FRIEND. All we do is sell parts online and in store, we dont so installs, we outsource them to other shops. Since we sell tons of parts we get better deals on things, better then shops like AMS and Buschur. We pay less, trust me. Turbotrix buys from me. Buschur and AMS buy from distributors but not nearly as much as I do. I sell 50-75 ACt clutches a month and that gets me at a better price then a shop who has a race car, fabricates custom parts, and does major labor. Go to turbotrix my friend, ask for MIke, ask him if they stock any parts. They dont, shops like that buy from places like me.
My 2nd point is I did not kill the market, I only sell enough to pay little enough to make some decent money on things. I keep up. I wouldnt be selling clutches on the forum if they were over 500$ You think AMS sells clutches mail order??? If they do the people arent on EvoM. Your fellow members are cheap as hell. Alot of people here are honest cool people, but almost every day I get a PM from someone who wants/expects to pay even less then what I already sell it for. The people who killed the market are the people selling parts from they bedrooms, not me my friend. I sell clutches for 480$ and I still make enough money to make it worth the 250$ a month I spend as a vendor. Open your eyes, I still need to cover credit card fees and my own personal commission and the business still gets paid.
I guess you should just buy your parts from the manufacturers and show your point. Pay full MSRP for everything. I'd love to see that.
The fact that parts are sold less then MSRP makes sense. Hasport for example sells on 3 different pricing levels. So if I'm at the deepest level and I want to sell mounts at Jobber with free shipping and still make 20% then thats my business. We live in a capatalist market my friend. IF WE ALL SOLD THINGS FOR THE SAME EXACT PRICE THEN COMPETITION WOULD BE NON EXISTENT
My 2nd point is I did not kill the market, I only sell enough to pay little enough to make some decent money on things. I keep up. I wouldnt be selling clutches on the forum if they were over 500$ You think AMS sells clutches mail order??? If they do the people arent on EvoM. Your fellow members are cheap as hell. Alot of people here are honest cool people, but almost every day I get a PM from someone who wants/expects to pay even less then what I already sell it for. The people who killed the market are the people selling parts from they bedrooms, not me my friend. I sell clutches for 480$ and I still make enough money to make it worth the 250$ a month I spend as a vendor. Open your eyes, I still need to cover credit card fees and my own personal commission and the business still gets paid.
I guess you should just buy your parts from the manufacturers and show your point. Pay full MSRP for everything. I'd love to see that.
The fact that parts are sold less then MSRP makes sense. Hasport for example sells on 3 different pricing levels. So if I'm at the deepest level and I want to sell mounts at Jobber with free shipping and still make 20% then thats my business. We live in a capatalist market my friend. IF WE ALL SOLD THINGS FOR THE SAME EXACT PRICE THEN COMPETITION WOULD BE NON EXISTENT
Capitalist is one thing, Selling garbage products with false advertising is another. They stole pictures of the AMS intercooler and are using them to market their own cheaper product. They make garbage and it breaks peoples cars. When your manifold breaks and your turbo almost falls iff its very inconveinent. When you put an intercooler on your car that is pretty much a thick radiator and the inlet temps are higher then stock then, hmmm you have a problem.
Nebolic: When did i say I live alone??? I live at home with my parents.
When did I say I pay for school myself??? I took loans out the first 2 semesters, and I get a little financial aid.
and yes I pay for my own 2005 evo and my own insurance and my own cell phone and anything else I need. When my car broke I had to charge it on a credit card.
Nebolic: When did i say I live alone??? I live at home with my parents.
When did I say I pay for school myself??? I took loans out the first 2 semesters, and I get a little financial aid.
and yes I pay for my own 2005 evo and my own insurance and my own cell phone and anything else I need. When my car broke I had to charge it on a credit card.
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
This thread is really bugging me. It is almost disbelief they did this to AMS because I know we are right around the corner it will probably happen to us in the near future. I have been thinking about this all day long. Copy cat companies are really look down upon in this industry. They kill the market and economy we are trying to build. I will post more thougths later, but I really wish we could stop this kind of stuff.