ssautochrome intercooler
Originally Posted by TheGVR4kid
It's funny to see a cut-throat internet parts dealer complain about bottom lines and price points. When it's guys like you who settle for making $10-20 on parts that have brought the entire industry down. MSRP's don't even matter anymore when you guys ***** out parts as soon as you get them. SS and this whole generation of ebay sellers and forum vendors are one in the same.
Look at AMS or Buschur's prices on cams or bov's or turbo timers, and then look at yours NOLIMIT, how come their prices are so much higher? Because you sold out for the bottom line. You are in no position to shlt on SS, guys like you have brought this industry down just as much, if not more.
Look at AMS or Buschur's prices on cams or bov's or turbo timers, and then look at yours NOLIMIT, how come their prices are so much higher? Because you sold out for the bottom line. You are in no position to shlt on SS, guys like you have brought this industry down just as much, if not more.
very true.he would sell me a 20 dollar bill for 10 bucks if he knows he can sell something
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Originally Posted by EVOla_VIRUS
Someone mentioned earlier that tarrifs are the way to go....they did it with foreign steel.....maybe their is a reason why they are not doing it with other products 
Originally Posted by evokiller
ummm....they do charge tariffs on other products. try importing something in bulk, US customs will tax you. i know because i've done it.
nebo
Just for the record I never said anything about 'chinese slave labor' I just said that their selling price is less than is costs me to make it. I'm pissed that this is going on but I'm not going to dwell on it, I can't afford to.
-Martin
-Martin
I think ssautochrome is made in usa.
economic senses tells us that if you don't use cheap labor overseas, you'll be paying $10 for a cup of coffee.
it's fairely obvious flaw in logics thinking that cheap labor overseas are taking jobs away from americans.
If you consider it, it's not a cheap labor. really, because their yearly average salary/household income is different than US, they're making compatible amount of money. Although, US does bombard china and taiwan with crap product manufacturing ideas which makes the US corporation the source of problem, not the people who takes the contract.
If you get a US contract saying make this mcdonals doll for $.01, or we'll take it to some other cheap country to make it. Then you'll make it for $.01, even though it costs $.10 to make them. It works both ways, because there is people who will make it for $.01 US corp says ok.
Also, import export trading is better in part of US. Just because we're exporting less than importing, that doesn't mean we're not making money. You're not looking at the exchange rate and what we export. For example, microsoft. that's an export product.
economic senses tells us that if you don't use cheap labor overseas, you'll be paying $10 for a cup of coffee.
it's fairely obvious flaw in logics thinking that cheap labor overseas are taking jobs away from americans.
If you consider it, it's not a cheap labor. really, because their yearly average salary/household income is different than US, they're making compatible amount of money. Although, US does bombard china and taiwan with crap product manufacturing ideas which makes the US corporation the source of problem, not the people who takes the contract.
If you get a US contract saying make this mcdonals doll for $.01, or we'll take it to some other cheap country to make it. Then you'll make it for $.01, even though it costs $.10 to make them. It works both ways, because there is people who will make it for $.01 US corp says ok.
Also, import export trading is better in part of US. Just because we're exporting less than importing, that doesn't mean we're not making money. You're not looking at the exchange rate and what we export. For example, microsoft. that's an export product.
Originally Posted by scherejs
this is stuff that you learn in basic business classes, especially "global business environment." competition is good for both consumers and suppliers, but "knock-offs" that are made over seas(mainly in asia)are bad for both the consumer and supplier. it's basically a race to the bottom. by getting cheap labor($.12) hour overseas distributers can export goods to the US and sell them at a much lower price which goes beyond competition to more of a substitution. this takes jobs out of american hands and places our dependence on imported products. like i said before it's a race to the bottom on who can provide the cheapest product. so in the short run it is good for consumers, but bad for producers here in the US. but in the long run it's bad for both because of the negative effects it has on our economy(something you learn in any accredited business core class). now realistically knocking off someones intercooler is not going to sway the economy, but practices like these on a wider scale does. now don't get me wrong i think importing is vital for our international trade, but that trade is severly lop-sidded. we import about 100 times what we export, which places too much dependence on foreign goods. and the majority of goods that we export tend to be textiles that are used for goods that are made or assembled overseas to then import back into the US. but aside from all this rambling you basically get what you pay for. you will not have the costomer service that you'll get with AMS, Buschur and other businesses. how many times have you guys talked to reps from ssautochrome on here and got advice etc.? also you bought a $30,000 car why not give it what it deserves. with that statement i'm not suggesting buying the most expensive, but only suggesting to not neglect it by just finding the best price.
Last edited by plokivos; May 10, 2005 at 12:17 PM.
Originally Posted by AMS
Just for the record I never said anything about 'chinese slave labor' I just said that their selling price is less than is costs me to make it. I'm pissed that this is going on but I'm not going to dwell on it, I can't afford to.
-Martin
-Martin
P.S There are many ways to shut them down pretty quick, if your attorney is good he'll shut them down real quick.
P.P.S Hey Martin, in the future, if you want a cheap way to Patent something, here is what you can do, have all your designs drawn up on paper, go to the United States Post Office and send that design to yourself and put a 1cent stamp on it, the Post office will reject your mail put they put a stamp of it, that stamp with time and date is official recognition of the United States Government and it holds as a run around way for patent.
Originally Posted by AMS
Just for the record I never said anything about 'chinese slave labor' I just said that their selling price is less than is costs me to make it. I'm pissed that this is going on but I'm not going to dwell on it, I can't afford to.
-Martin
-Martin
free trade can be good as long as it's not abused. and right now it's being abused, especially since president clinton signed the bill back in the early 90's.
Originally Posted by scherejs
this is stuff that you learn in basic business classes, especially "global business environment." competition is good for both consumers and suppliers, but "knock-offs" that are made over seas(mainly in asia)are bad for both the consumer and supplier. it's basically a race to the bottom. by getting cheap labor($.12) hour overseas distributers can export goods to the US and sell them at a much lower price which goes beyond competition to more of a substitution. this takes jobs out of american hands and places our dependence on imported products. like i said before it's a race to the bottom on who can provide the cheapest product. so in the short run it is good for consumers, but bad for producers here in the US. but in the long run it's bad for both because of the negative effects it has on our economy(something you learn in any accredited business core class). now realistically knocking off someones intercooler is not going to sway the economy, but practices like these on a wider scale does. now don't get me wrong i think importing is vital for our international trade, but that trade is severly lop-sidded. we import about 100 times what we export, which places too much dependence on foreign goods. and the majority of goods that we export tend to be textiles that are used for goods that are made or assembled overseas to then import back into the US. but aside from all this rambling you basically get what you pay for. you will not have the costomer service that you'll get with AMS, Buschur and other businesses. how many times have you guys talked to reps from ssautochrome on here and got advice etc.? also you bought a $30,000 car why not give it what it deserves. with that statement i'm not suggesting buying the most expensive, but only suggesting to not neglect it by just finding the best price.
You almost got it right buddy but the accredited business school you refer to didn't give you the whole story. In the long run, resources are shifted from unprofitable business to more profitable business, i.e skilled labor. In the country where labor is cheap, the demand will eventually outstrip the supply of labor thus causing the labor rate to increase, standard of living will increase and everything will adjust accordingly.
Free trade is always good, regardless of its imported from overseas.
Please take a look at U.S history during the industrial revolution, Labor rates in the U.S was dirt cheap . . . what are labor rates now? Every emerging market goes through a phase where they have to start off with low skilled low cost labor. Competition and free trade will always result in a postive norm.
nebo
you need to go back and study some current global economics. You took that class, "Global doom", right? lol
there are a lot of investment going into china, more than US. It's race to the bottom, because US investors make it that way... well mostly US investors who likes to give away free ***** toys at their fast food joint.
In reality, there are a lot of M&A going on from china to US. A lot of money's going into turning them into Westernized country from communist country.
You just take the negative part and generalize it to the country. There are more millionairs in China then US.
there are a lot of investment going into china, more than US. It's race to the bottom, because US investors make it that way... well mostly US investors who likes to give away free ***** toys at their fast food joint.
In reality, there are a lot of M&A going on from china to US. A lot of money's going into turning them into Westernized country from communist country.
You just take the negative part and generalize it to the country. There are more millionairs in China then US.
Originally Posted by scherejs
you might not say it but i will. $.12 hour and no benefits is slave labor. i study global economics and international trade and have seen the adverse effects it has not only on asia but other countries as well. like i said in my previous post "it's a race to the bottom." right now the winner in that race is china, but when another country comes along to produces those same products at a lower cost then they jump ahead. in turn china would have to strip its laborers of more wages to compete with them. it's horrible for the well-being of those countries, like china, as well as the countries that import those goods.
free trade can be good as long as it's not abused. and right now it's being abused, especially since president clinton signed the bill back in the early 90's.
free trade can be good as long as it's not abused. and right now it's being abused, especially since president clinton signed the bill back in the early 90's.
Last edited by plokivos; May 10, 2005 at 12:29 PM.
Originally Posted by scherejs
you might not say it but i will. $.12 hour and no benefits is slave labor. i study global economics and international trade and have seen the adverse effects it has not only on asia but other countries as well. like i said in my previous post "it's a race to the bottom." right now the winner in that race is china, but when another country comes along to produces those same products at a lower cost then they jump ahead. in turn china would have to strip its laborers of more wages to compete with them. it's horrible for the well-being of those countries, like china, as well as the countries that import those goods.
free trade can be good as long as it's not abused. and right now it's being abused, especially since president clinton signed the bill back in the early 90's.
free trade can be good as long as it's not abused. and right now it's being abused, especially since president clinton signed the bill back in the early 90's.
You're looking at a stagnant picture and not looking at cause and effects.
nebo
Originally Posted by AMS
Competition? What if your boss told you you where fired because he now has a bunch of guys that will do the same job you do for 1/3 of the salary? That means you will now have to work and survive on 1/3 of what you made before.
And I'm glad someone (more like many ones) have corrected scherje in his bad business training.
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Originally Posted by nebolic
it's not that simple, with the WTO all countries have signed agreements to promote free trade, adding a tarriff will result in reprecussions from various countries which will hurt the country as a whole...
nebo
nebo
what are you talking about!?!?? this tariff is not being added. it already exists. i already paid for it.
Originally Posted by nebolic
You almost got it right buddy but the accredited business school you refer to didn't give you the whole story. In the long run, resources are shifted from unprofitable business to more profitable business, i.e skilled labor. In the country where labor is cheap, the demand will eventually outstrip the supply of labor thus causing the labor rate to increase, standard of living will increase and everything will adjust accordingly.
Free trade is always good, regardless of its imported from overseas.
Please take a look at U.S history during the industrial revolution, Labor rates in the U.S was dirt cheap . . . what are labor rates now? Every emerging market goes through a phase where they have to start off with low skilled low cost labor. Competition and free trade will always result in a postive norm.
nebo
Free trade is always good, regardless of its imported from overseas.
Please take a look at U.S history during the industrial revolution, Labor rates in the U.S was dirt cheap . . . what are labor rates now? Every emerging market goes through a phase where they have to start off with low skilled low cost labor. Competition and free trade will always result in a postive norm.
nebo
Originally Posted by evokiller
what are you talking about!?!?? this tariff is not being added. it already exists. i already paid for it.
sherejes, read this article here on free trade.
Last edited by cmbjive; May 10, 2005 at 12:43 PM.
Originally Posted by evokiller
what are you talking about!?!?? this tariff is not being added. it already exists. i already paid for it.
yes, but you were inferring to asking to add more tariff to protect. it is not as simple as that. If you tell the car industry to ask the president to impose a new tax on foreign cars, that will not fare very well with the rest of the world.
There are tariffs in place already that was existing before . . .
nebo