Performance vs. Rear Wing
Performance vs. Rear Wing
Hi everyone,
I've already spoken to avery credible source, and am curious what other people feel. I'm a college student, who loves performance, but not appearance. I am planning on getting an Evolution 8 by the summer and have thought of getting the smaller wing. However i'm not sure how much of a performance difference, or disadvantage this would cause. I have also thought of getting an aftermarket wing that looks like a compromise between the Big and Small spoilers offered for the US Evo 8, but have heard they seldom exist. Is the Evo's big spoiler just for show, or do you think it has a noticable advantage over the smaller one offered?
I've already spoken to avery credible source, and am curious what other people feel. I'm a college student, who loves performance, but not appearance. I am planning on getting an Evolution 8 by the summer and have thought of getting the smaller wing. However i'm not sure how much of a performance difference, or disadvantage this would cause. I have also thought of getting an aftermarket wing that looks like a compromise between the Big and Small spoilers offered for the US Evo 8, but have heard they seldom exist. Is the Evo's big spoiler just for show, or do you think it has a noticable advantage over the smaller one offered?
Thanks jrock...
Also this might be a stupid question but does anyone know if I can get both wings, and then attach either one at diffrent times? i'm assuming no, but maybe by a mechanic for a few hundred?
Also this might be a stupid question but does anyone know if I can get both wings, and then attach either one at diffrent times? i'm assuming no, but maybe by a mechanic for a few hundred?
What is the car for?
Let me ask you this, and be honest to yourself. What are you planning on doing with this car?
For only street driving, drag racing and stoplight grand prix's the big spoiler does nothing! I don't care what people say you will not fly off course in the quarter mile without the spoiler. It won't really help you in Autox either as you don't really reach the speeds to make it effective.
What it will help you at is attracting attention and at a race track (a real one) like Buttonwillow or Willow springs. Its so funny seeing these guys with these FWD cars getting huge spoilers claiming they help performance when they're too stupid to realize that in reality any significant downforce comes at the expense of drag (laymans terms: SLOWS YOU DOWN). Why don't they just say they like the looks of it, there's nothing wrong with that. Also in a FWD you need more grip in the front not in the rear. So a rear spoiler usually only helps RWD & AWD cars.
In some cases with poor aerodynamic design (ie: Audi TT) a rear lip spoiler can help reduce aerodynamic lift that occurs at speed without really adding much drag and reducing the "airfoil" effect.
Personally, I do race both Autox and on tracks but I won't say the main reason I like the big spoiler is for performance. I thinks it looks badass and to me that spoiler is one of the Evo's distinguishing features.
If you don't care for its looks and you aren't racing on a proffesional track then you won't need it and more power to you because honestly, in most (99.5% of the time) situations the bigger spoiler isn't going to help you.
end of rant...
For only street driving, drag racing and stoplight grand prix's the big spoiler does nothing! I don't care what people say you will not fly off course in the quarter mile without the spoiler. It won't really help you in Autox either as you don't really reach the speeds to make it effective.
What it will help you at is attracting attention and at a race track (a real one) like Buttonwillow or Willow springs. Its so funny seeing these guys with these FWD cars getting huge spoilers claiming they help performance when they're too stupid to realize that in reality any significant downforce comes at the expense of drag (laymans terms: SLOWS YOU DOWN). Why don't they just say they like the looks of it, there's nothing wrong with that. Also in a FWD you need more grip in the front not in the rear. So a rear spoiler usually only helps RWD & AWD cars.
In some cases with poor aerodynamic design (ie: Audi TT) a rear lip spoiler can help reduce aerodynamic lift that occurs at speed without really adding much drag and reducing the "airfoil" effect.
Personally, I do race both Autox and on tracks but I won't say the main reason I like the big spoiler is for performance. I thinks it looks badass and to me that spoiler is one of the Evo's distinguishing features.
If you don't care for its looks and you aren't racing on a proffesional track then you won't need it and more power to you because honestly, in most (99.5% of the time) situations the bigger spoiler isn't going to help you.
end of rant...
Re: What is the car for?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlackLoTuS
stoplight grand prix's
haha that's great, and true! I'm not a racecar driver, but occassionally will pretend to be...
Thanks
if anyone else has any more info let me know, also word on the detachment thing would be good
stoplight grand prix's
haha that's great, and true! I'm not a racecar driver, but occassionally will pretend to be...
Thanks
if anyone else has any more info let me know, also word on the detachment thing would be good
actually a spoiler does help with conering in a fwd car at high speeds, thats why on speedvision the realtime integra type rs have one of thos big wings i think, but the rear spoiler on the evo might actually help cornering on a windy road with high speeds like hwy 17, i'm not saying you should go buy one of those cheesy huge aluminum spoilers for a street fwd car though because the drag will probably slow you down more than the cornering at high speeds would be helped.
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ya thats a good point.....Cladius had mentioned to me, how on the evo 7, the downforce was barely "negligable" in credible tests, even with the adjuster all the way down. And Cladius knows a lot. i know that the spoilers a trademark, but i got worried cause thats all the promotions tend to talk about....so I thought, it was like get the new carbon fiber new age spoiler, or you'd skid off the road and die or something
I'm pretty sure i'm not gonna get it. I was makin sure it didn't have a do or die balancing issue without one, etc. So i'm gonna go with the black evo without one. Thanks for the imput everyone
I've seen a few without the wing and to be honest the car looks really ugly, since it's already now a very balanced car design-wise...even the small one they had for the evo7 GT-A was no good...
Last edited by ChrisEVO; Feb 24, 2003 at 08:28 AM.
ChrisEVO i'm interested in what your saying. I notice you have an EVO yourself. Do you mean that the big wing or the small weren't good? or the car was balanced with the big wing and the small one throws that off?
The way I look at it, the big wing is a signature component on the Evo. Every Evo from day one has had the same relative rear wing. It's one of the things that defines the Evo. To me, it's not even a thought in my mind to get an Evo without it. It's like getting a camaro SS without the ram air hood.
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