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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Holy loss of torque

I installed some GSC 272/272 cams this past weekend...I can't believe how much low-end torque I lost. I had read about the 272's being a couple lbs short on torque on the low end, but didn't realize it would be this bad. Compared to the stock cams, my car feels like a 4cyl. Honda below 4k. Top end has improved but at quite the expense of low RPM power.

Is this something I can hope to have remedied by a re-tune? Right now I'm running a mail-in flash for 3" TBE, Helix Intake, Walbro Fuel Pump and boost controller set at 21psi.

It would be nice to get that torque back but I'm guessing since the retuning seems to only affect WOT/in boost driving I probably am out of luck...
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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I'd like to know too.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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i too was not to happy with my 272's , but i didnt feel like i lost any tq , just didnt feel like +20-30hp . Allmost sound like the timming it not right , recheck to see if your timming marks line up
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Yea after flash should be fine i have greddy 272's and tune was good 348wqrt..
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Yea after flash should be fine i have greddy 272's and tune was good 348wqrt..
I didnt know greddy makes 272
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by matt55
i too was not to happy with my 272's , but i didnt feel like i lost any tq , just didnt feel like +20-30hp . Allmost sound like the timming it not right , recheck to see if your timming marks line up
yea the timing is dead on...

the car pulls really hard up top but I definitely expected a bit more from all the "just installed my cams!!!" posts
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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Yea miss it lol
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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You definitely need a retune.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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yea the timing is dead on...
Did you go by the crank timing mark or the valve cover marks?

My crank was at btdc while the valve cover marks were dead on. I went with valve cover markings.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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get it tuned...
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinkapuss
Did you go by the crank timing mark or the valve cover marks?

My crank was at btdc while the valve cover marks were dead on. I went with valve cover markings.
The exhaust cam looked to be a bit past TDC but with the valve cover on it was perfect.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Retune that boy. Try Ecutek.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by anjapower
The exhaust cam looked to be a bit past TDC but with the valve cover on it was perfect.
what about the crank pully timming mark ?
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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what about the crank pully timming mark ?
crank sprocket was also good. It definitely isn't timing. The car idles smooth as can be with a slight lope, never stumbles at all, and no CEL. If I was one tooth off I think the SES would've came on.

I have a retune scheduled for the 23rd at Turbotrix.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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you should be fine after the retune, even with just 272's there should be minimal loss at low end
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