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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MalibuJack
Agreed, Since my personal priority has been biased towards reliability, this was the reason for my answer.. When most people ask I definitely say to stick with cast exhaust manifold ported/coated on a daily driver.
I don't disagree Jack - I have had the Buschur ported/coated mani on my car for several months now as I thought the reliability component was worth giving up a few ponies to a tubular mani myself.

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I have the ported/coated Buschur mani, a WR (ported and coated exhuast housing), and a coated Works 3" 02 housing.
Very interested to see what the Works 3" 02 housing does - please keep us updated. Seems like a nice cast piece.


Were you able to bolt it up to your downpipe without alteration or were you forced to buy the Works downpipe?
Edit - Scratch the above question - I looked at your post again -
Originally Posted by atlvalet
And yes, I'm very happy with the FP WR, my WOrks 02 HFC & Downpipe

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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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FYI, I had my Works DP next to a Turbo XS downpipe, and for all intents and purposes, they looked the same (the bends were SLIGHTLY different).
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
FYI, I had my Works DP next to a Turbo XS downpipe, and for all intents and purposes, they looked the same (the bends were SLIGHTLY different).
What about where it connects to the 02 housing?
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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That's what I meant. It literally looks the same. Now, I didn't actually put the 02 and Turbo XS DP together. But, before we compared the bends of the DP, we thought the WOrks and the XS were the same piece (based upon how the part of the DP that mates up to the 02 housing appeared).
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Thanks - I'm was contemplating getting the Works 02 housing as I've done about just everything else. I'm about as far as I can go w/ a stockish turbo. Getting that last 10/tenths sure is expensive.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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You gotta pay to play...however, you never have to worry about this piece breaking or cracking. It's a full 3" and I got mine ceramic coated.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by atlvalet
You gotta pay to play...however, you never have to worry about this piece breaking or cracking. It's a full 3" and I got mine ceramic coated.
Could you post a pic?
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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THere's a pic of it on the Works area. Mine is on the car hidden by a heat shield

Looks stock
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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decided on an atp 3071-R

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I think if your going to spend 1500k for a turbo, you might as well put your own kit together for 2k and make some real gains.
I really dont see either one of these turbos making any decent gains.
I picked up the car last saturday after a 5 days of getting my ATP 3071 kit put on and............................................... ............I could not be any happier!!!!!! The kit looks great very similar to stock except for the external waste gate(and the borla header) The car sounds great, with a deeper growl than before, just by adding the turbo with its own down pipe. Best of all it runs great and VERY FAST. The spool up is better than I imagined and better than the stock spool up. I tried it out in 5th gear climbing a hill at about 70 mph which is about 3000 rpms, as soon as I hit the gas the rpm's went to about 3200 and I had boost and full boost by 3400!! The stock came in about 100 rpm later on both. Now when the boost comes on even at a low boost setting of 20.5-21 psi. The car hauls a$$. I can feel a big difference!

p.s. the only reason I am at a low boost psi is because my stock clutch is not able to hold the increased boost. I could possibly increase it to 22.5 or 23 psi and I would be pushing it.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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ATP kit Bump

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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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stock turbo hits full boost by 3100 in 5th. the ATP 3071 DOES NOT spool as fast as the stock turbo....i think you are in some sort of twilight zone
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gsujeff55
stock turbo hits full boost by 3100 in 5th. the ATP 3071 DOES NOT spool as fast as the stock turbo....i think you are in some sort of twilight zone
Dude, I am talking about my car...have you driven it?????????? then relax. with my set up, many mods including a buscher fmic(which made the stock turbo spool up slower) and hks 264 cams w/ aem cam gears set to -3, -3. With that same setup, I tried the same hill before I dropped the 3071 in, and after. I reported what I found. The stock started its spool up 100 rpm later, and the 3071 reached it's full boost +or- 100 rpm sooner. That is my finding. I am not in a twilight zone, just a speed zone!
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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Precision Dyno,

i would definitely like to see more information on the 3071. unlike most people on the board, i have an additional thing that is making my upgrade decision even more tough. i live in a high elevation area (6000ft+), i wanted to get the gt35r, but realized that up here it would spool 500rpm or so slower than sea level.

i never really considered the 3071, since it was the smallest garret turbo offered by most companies and i didnt see a good reason to spend that much money on a turbo that has smaller gains than everything else.
1st of all all the turbos being talked about ex. the 3076, the 3071, the 3037, ect are are gt 35'rs. Now the results are in on my 3071 ATP kit.
I was making about 320 whp and 315 wtq on a dynojet with my stock turbo, on 22 psi of boost. The torque came in at 3500 peak and stayed until 4500 rpm. The torque then dropped dramatically. The horsepower peaked at 5700 rpm and slowly went down from there, to 6,500 rpm.

Just got My car back from the dyno w/ my 3071r ATP kit: The torque peaks at 3,800 rpm but stays up there until 7,000+ with no noticable drop in tq. it made 309 wtq at 3800 rpm. Now the horsepower went to 390 whp at 6,500 peak, it too stayed up in the range until 7000 rpm +. Thats 70 more horsepower
The boost levels were set at 20.5 to 21 psi. We tried to dial more boost into the car, but the stock clutch started slipping at anything over 21psi. People commonly boost this turbo from 24-28 psi on a mixed fuel 93-94 octane. That says to me that this turbo has mega potential. I will just have to wait to unlock it when I get a new clutch. Also with increased boost will bring the tq #'s up where they should be about 350-360 wtq. with well over 400 whp!

My buddy has a 3037 ATP kit and he lost about 25 whp/wtq and some spool up moving to a high elevation area like 6,000' or somthing.

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Old Sep 24, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cnoevo8
1st of all all the turbos being talked about ex. the 3076, the 3071, the 3037, ect are are gt 35'rs. Now the results are in on my 3071 ATP kit.
I was making about 320 whp and 315 wtq on a dynojet with my stock turbo, on 22 psi of boost. The torque came in at 3500 peak and stayed until 4500 rpm. The torque then dropped dramatically. The horsepower peaked at 5700 rpm and slowly went down from there, to 6,500 rpm.

Just got My car back from the dyno w/ my 3071r ATP kit: The torque peaks at 3,800 rpm but stays up there until 7,000+ with no noticable drop in tq. it made 309 wtq at 3800 rpm. Now the horsepower went to 390 whp at 6,500 peak, it too stayed up in the range until 7000 rpm +. Thats 70 more horsepower
The boost levels were set at 20.5 to 21 psi. We tried to dial more boost into the car, but the stock clutch started slipping at anything over 21psi. People commonly boost this turbo from 24-28 psi on a mixed fuel 93-94 octane. That says to me that this turbo has mega potential. I will just have to wait to unlock it when I get a new clutch. Also with increased boost will bring the tq #'s up where they should be about 350-360 wtq. with well over 400 whp!

My buddy has a 3037 ATP kit and he lost about 25 whp/wtq and some spool up moving to a high elevation area like 6,000' or somthing.

Wow, thats a good gain over stock. how does it feel when your driving? i notice that the turbo upgrades always have low torque and high hp, which is unlike the stocker. im wondering if this loss in tq is offset by a gain in hp.

the 3076/3037 is a nice turbo and seems like its the largest one to get if only running pump and alky. a local guy here made 420whp on a dynojet with the ams 3076r kit. the question i have is, how much more hp and tq would i be able to gain with alky injection? another concern is how much of an improvment would this be, performance wise, compare to stock and the 20g?

finally, i am wondering what the difference is between the 3071 and 3076 on pump and alky(performance wise and power)? the turbos that i am looking at are the 3076, 3071, and 20g. i want to know which one would give me the best performance.
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