Do you own an ACT clutch?

 

If the pedal adjustment solved your problem I dont understand why you are still unhappy, especially coming from a DSM with ACT clutch, it only makes sense that the engaugement point it high. In a DSM push type clutch, the engaugement for the ACT is right off the floorboard unless you adjust the clutch rod to its last thread, and even then its still very low, which is why most people install a washer under the clutch fork pivot ball to get the pedal a little bit higher. Now knowing the Evo is a pull type clutch, the opposite of a DSM, it only makes sense that the ACT clutch engaugment would be pretty much the exact opposite of the DSM clutch, meaning all the way at the top of the pedal travel instead of off the floor. I think it is just the nature of the single disc clutch. The twins dont have that problem cause the clutch assembly itself is wider which changes the dynamics of the clutch fork travel. If other people havent had the shifting problem return after the pedal adjustment, why are you considering it a band-aid? The high engaugement is uncomfortable at first but you do get used to it. I even had to move my seat back one click after the adjustment to be able to launch the car properly, but you get used to driving that way and it becomes normal again. I think your car should be fine, just make sure you didnt go too high on the adjustment or else it will never be fully engauged.

Another tip when adjusting the rod, slightly push on the pedal with your other hand and it makes spinning the rod by hand MUCH easier.

 

Still on stock clutch on my EVO. Had a couple ACT clutches on my DSMs. Have spoken to Dirk in person a couple times. Great guy.

But, what does this have to do with what I posted?

 

I somewhat agree. I personally don't like High engaging clutches but I attribute that to my height assuming Warrtalon is my height he would have to move his seat back to become comfortable with clutch engagement meanwhile moving him further from the steering wheel , extending his arms which could cause fatigue during AUTO- X , atleast thats what I assume his problem is.

 

nothing. Just wondering if your experiencing it too. Dirk is an Awesome guy, I cannot stress that enough. I talked to him via the internet before I purchased his brand. I have been following this thread from the begining meanwhile staying out of it for Dirk's sake. Dirk doesn't need a 15page thread complaining about his product. But I jumped in to give Warrtalon some support.

 

Here's my deal:

500whp evo with 32 track days and 35k miles. I have had the following clutch/tranny:

rps 5 puck ceramic- lasted 8k and was very grabby

cusco carbon twin- lasted 10k

ats carbon triple plate- lasted 10k and then slipped. carbon plates still okay after I pulled it but the steel plates between them are warped.

act 7k and works perfect... drives almost stock with heavier pedal and holds the power so far... I also rebuilt my tranny 2 times at rre so this is clearly an example of extreme wear through power...

For the price of the carbon lobster tail clutch like the ats, I could buy 3 act and it is easier to drive!

 

when you gonna pick me up in that beast ?

 

Yeah, thats what I mean, I never seen the "getting stuck in gear thing", thats strange!

And about what ACT Man says, yes I have read all of his posts in this matter and havent found anything that solves the problem, I have changed my adjustment from very low, to very high and it still was doing the same thing. Right now its working better but my clutch pedal its very high and I hate it, I cant put it higher, and its still not cured, just not doing it everytime. And it started after the ACT install, my car is a 05 and never was launched or raced before the clutch, dont blame the tranny or other things.

 

Shifting on the EVO suck from the beginning even with stock clutch. Engine moves too much, clutch engages high and disengages low. This just got worst with the ACT especially when not adjusted. Just got to get use to it after adjustment. I would of like to not adjust the ACT clutch but if adjusting works and causes no other ill effects I have nothing against this clutch. The challenge will be to find out the ill effects if any. Let's not point finger and work together to solve it. Dirk have been helpful in answering questions in here and finding root cause takes time . Not everyday that you will see a president of a company helping the customer.

Warratalon:

Glad it helped. SO you have 2-3 threads left? I think that is still plenty freeplay. I have 2 threads left and I was planing to make it 1.5.

 

Well I'm at least glad to see Warrtalon had success for now. How long it will last is to be seen in the future.

Dammit now I gotta get under the dash ... I hate being in the position.

 

I strongly recommend that you do it. For anyone who have an ACT clutch I recommend you check the rod for the amount of threads left. If you have 4-5 or more and see no issue I would adjust it slightly. You may see the problem later on and it could be too late.

 

Check out this link for those of you are trying to adjust the clutch pedal. It has some pics to help.

http://www.evomoto.com/tech_info.php?tech_id=28

 

Unhappy, because it is not fixed. I simply masked the real problem by adjusting the rod outside it's normal range. I never had such an issue on my DSMs, so I am not quite sure what you're referring to. All 3 of my 1g's had ACT 2600s, and I never had any special pedal adjustments that I had to do, and I raced the living dog mess out of those.

The problem here is that there is only a temporary bandaid fix for this, and I've done it, but that's not going to last very long. Also, during this short span that my clutch "works," I have to deal with an extremely high engagement point, which is no good for racing at all.

 

Unfortunately I don't have a lot of time to address eveyone on this forum especially with my tie-ping. Don't make the mistake of assuming that the cause for shifting problems is the same for everyone. I have seen at least three different causes on the EVO and there are a couple other causes that I know can exist. It gets complicated describing it all so I am going to get some help from my IT guy and come up with a web page to describe it for you instead of trying to pollute the forum. When the question comes up I can show a link to the page rather than hurting my finger tips. That way I don't have to keep repeating myself when this comes up. I have so much more I usually want to say, but don't have time to do so, and usually I have already said it somewhere else. I hope you guys like tech about clutches because instead of getting bits and pieces, you are going to get it all! It may take a while (probably Monday so my web guy can load it), but I think you will appreciate the information.

Warrtalon: Don't wait for the page. I've been waiting to hear from you personally since you started the thread. Just drop me an email with a phone number. I don't mind at all discussing this on my dime.

 

Ok.