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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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There is not supposed to be oil when you check through the oil cap...check the oil dip stick..the little white handle that says "engine" on it. that should be your oil. You have a blown head gasket and your oil may have been mixed with the radiator coolant (green/yellow liquid) which is why there is no coolant. Change the oil...it should require a 17 mm bolt. Take it too a local shop after that and have the head gasket replaced along with new coolant and another oil change.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancerlover
There is not supposed to be oil when you check through the oil cap...check the oil dip stick..the little white handle that says "engine" on it. that should be your oil. You have a blown head gasket and your oil may have been mixed with the radiator coolant (green/yellow liquid) which is why there is no coolant. Change the oil...it should require a 17 mm bolt. Take it too a local shop after that and have the head gasket replaced along with new coolant and another oil change.
yeah i checked my dipstick too, no oil.
it the cams suppose to be visible when opening the oil cap? shouldn't there be oil in there to lubricate all those?
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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oh ok, i looked inside the engine and I can see the cams... no oil right??
i'll go check on the turbo. thanks for your help

Sorry was just trying ot help.

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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by IEXCELR8
Check this photo and pull this out and let us know.There are 2 notches the oil should be at the top of the second notch.
I know dipstick btw
yeah i checked it and no oil...
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fr34k
I know dipstick btw
yeah i checked it and no oil...

Sorry man, I figured you did.

Good luck and let us know!!
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by IEXCELR8
Sorry man, I figured you did.

Good luck and let us know!!
thanks alot man, I really appreciate it.
the oil on the dipstick only goes upto the tip of the stick.
not even the first notch
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by slugsgomoo
you won't see oil on the oil cap, but if you pull out the dipstick you should still see some. If you rub it between your fingers, it probably won't feel real "oily" because there is water in it.

To check shaftplay, take the intake pipe off of your turbo inlet, and reach in (make sure the car is off, and they keys are in your pocket) and wiggle the shaft up & down, and side to side. If it moves too much (or especially if it hits the sides of the housing) that would indicate that the turbo itself is blown.
The turbo has a little shaftplay, I'm not sure whether it's normal or not. I checked on my stock turbo too, the movement on the GT30R is almost twice as much as compared to the stock turbo. I am not sure man.... what might have caused the problem anyway?? i've never run more than 22 psi on this turbo
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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anyone really familiar with turbo shaftplay?? please help me out
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Most turbos have a small amount of shaft play even when brand new. It's hard to know what's OK unless you have had felt the play in lots of turbos. I'd definitely get the car trailered to RRE and have them take care of the rest. Guessing is never good especially when engine damage is imminent.

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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
Most turbos have a small amount of shaft play even when brand new. It's hard to know what's OK unless you have had felt the play in lots of turbos. I'd definitely get the car trailered to RRE and have them take care of the rest. Guessing is never good especially when engine damage is imminent.

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Thanks, i'll most probably tow my car to RRE if he's available to take my car in..
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Dude think before u ask ur questions next time.. almost all of the question u asked is in ur owners manual.. Sometimes it pays to look up the info urself rather than just start asking people. BTW i am in no way making fun of u but seriously dude....
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Thanks, i'll most probably tow my car to RRE if he's available to take my car in..
Do NOT tow your car, FLAT BED it!!! Towing your car will F up the drive system royally.

You checked your dipstick and there was no oil on it??? Flat bed your car to a mechanic asap. It sounds like you burned up all your oil and coolant from a blown head gasket.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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I can't believe so many of you are giving this guy a hard time for looking for some help with an urgent problem on the car. If you don't want to help just move on and don't reply.

It does sound like probably a blown headgasket. The next thing to do would probably be a compression or leak down test. Assuming that the pressure is off in at least one cylinder, the shop will probably pull the head off. At that point, it will be obvious if the gasket is damaged. Before reassembling things with a new gasket, the shop will probably make sure that the engine deck is still flat and that the head isn't warped. If the head is warped, then a machine shop will need to machine it flat. This would be a really good time to install new valvesprings if you are planning to do that (or a ported head!). Also, obviously upgrade to ARP headstuds. The deck is probably okay, but if it's not that could require pulling the motor (unlikely to be needed).

You can blow a headgasket through any bad tuning that causes detonation/ping/knock. Too much boost can do it, but so can too much timing or too lean of an AFR, so your tuner may be to blame if the boost has been moderate. Also, you may have gotten a bad tank of gas.

I wouldn't drive it. As others have pointed out, coolant mixed in the oil can reduce the slipperiness of the oil and cause accelerated wear of your bearings. The less you drive it the better.

Good luck with getting everything back together.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jeff
Dude think before u ask ur questions next time.. almost all of the question u asked is in ur owners manual.. Sometimes it pays to look up the info urself rather than just start asking people. BTW i am in no way making fun of u but seriously dude....
mmm so they talk about turbo shaftplay in the manual?? oh I guess you became so knowledgable reading the whole manual eh? good for you
I dont read owners manual for this type of stuff... do they talk about smoke comin out of your tailpipes?? what about blown headgasket?? what about "how much boost i was running"? come on man, seriously I dont need your post here...
it is better for you to keep your comment to yourself if you just dont like what I ask about... alrighty dude?

OHhh sorry, I just noticed that you drive a lancer... That's probably why you dont get what i'm askin and I dont get what you're sayin... its like 2 different languages.. we can't connect bro... maybe your lancer's owner manual have all those stuff I mentioned above, but mine? I dont think so..

I'm sorry to other lancer owners, no offense, I just can't live with this type of poeple who will check owners manual when his engine blows and he think he's smart..

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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
I can't believe so many of you are giving this guy a hard time for looking for some help with an urgent problem on the car. If you don't want to help just move on and don't reply.

It does sound like probably a blown headgasket. The next thing to do would probably be a compression or leak down test. Assuming that the pressure is off in at least one cylinder, the shop will probably pull the head off. At that point, it will be obvious if the gasket is damaged. Before reassembling things with a new gasket, the shop will probably make sure that the engine deck is still flat and that the head isn't warped. If the head is warped, then a machine shop will need to machine it flat. This would be a really good time to install new valvesprings if you are planning to do that (or a ported head!). Also, obviously upgrade to ARP headstuds. The deck is probably okay, but if it's not that could require pulling the motor (unlikely to be needed).

You can blow a headgasket through any bad tuning that causes detonation/ping/knock. Too much boost can do it, but so can too much timing or too lean of an AFR, so your tuner may be to blame if the boost has been moderate. Also, you may have gotten a bad tank of gas.

I wouldn't drive it. As others have pointed out, coolant mixed in the oil can reduce the slipperiness of the oil and cause accelerated wear of your bearings. The less you drive it the better.

Good luck with getting everything back together.
Thanks alot! I appreciate your help, I will most probably be taking my car on a flat-bed truck as the guy above you mentioned.. mm so far I only use 76 91oct gas, so the bad gas reasoning might not be it, i'm actually really not sure what has cause this problem.. maybe tuning.. not sure though...
Anyway, Thanks alot, I really like guys like you who help out people in trouble compared to those few who just love to **** people off...
good luck
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