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Case Study # 104 - 2005 MR makes mega TQ!

Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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I wonder if the knocksensor is working at all , ie. it might be knocking but not pulling timming ?
But either way that some awesome #'s .
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Even for a Dynojet that is a High number to be making. I am sure it is great.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by matt55
I wonder if the knocksensor is working at all , ie. it might be knocking but not pulling timming ?
But either way that some awesome #'s .
This is a VERY inteligent observation and one that has had me thinking a lot today

I was in touch with the customer today who is 100% sure he never had anything in the tank but 100% pump gas

I was thinking that his knock sensor may be slightly less senstitive than others - something I will try and test when he comes back for further tuning

In any event there was a total absense of audable knock or any knock sensor activity beyond normal engine background activity
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
This is a VERY inteligent observation and one that has had me thinking a lot today

I was in touch with the customer today who is 100% sure he never had anything in the tank but 100% pump gas

I was thinking that his knock sensor may be slightly less senstitive than others - something I will try and test when he comes back for further tuning

In any event there was a total absense of audable knock or any knock sensor activity beyond normal engine background activity
Hmm, that's scary.

There has to be some explanation, so it will be interesting to see what happens. I just hope that the power he's making at that boost with the more-lean-than-normal tune and maxed IJD will not damage the engine.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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God Damn all these variables.


Hey AL, what would an AEM standalone offer that your FLash can't do besides hold more then 1 maps and I mean with a Wideband too.


Thanks.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Amazing numbers Al. Keep up the good work and keep us posted ifyou guys figure out why these numbers are so unreal.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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this post is a joke...... c-mon at a real dyno it wouldn't of posted those numbers.....
no body knows me but i've dyno'd many cars, dsms, evo's personal own a o5 8,
i have more work on the car than that one , and i know for a fact that this power claim is all
from a poopy dyno that reads high..............

dude you are funny....Al is one of the premier tuners around not to mention that Pruven Performance are gods in the 4g63 world and this dyno has seen ALOT of cars in the CT/NY/NJ area.

I have had Al tune my car 3 times already and his tunes are NOT a joke
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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bump for update. seriously
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Just by way of counter point, the previous car today, that of evo-ny member Henri, consumed nearly my entire day a marathon day of 5 plus hours trying to track down some significant problems with the car that presented as a huge dip in the power band and a blip in the a/f curve

At first a miss fire was suspected which resulted in a swap of plugs and a test of a back up set of spark plug wires and coils we use in these circumstances

Later, after a boost leak and compression test and a test of a second boost controller to rule out any other causes, a use of my knock ears and data logger showed that the dip was realted to the down pipe contacting the on cross member when the engine was torqing over

When the down pipe was knocking into the cross member it was apparently tricking the ecu into pulling some timing in that area of the map

Just an example of how the tuning MUST go forward IN RESPONSE to what is going on in the individual car.
damn what a pita, congrats on finding the problem...
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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Are those SAE corrected or raw #'s?

Either way, holy crap.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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i trapped 117 with only 300 whp and about 255 ft lbs of torque no cams.

then again on a different dyno that may have 380 or more WHP.
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 4G63>OOOO
Are those SAE corrected or raw #'s?

Either way, holy crap.
They are uncorrected as the graph says "ACTUAL" on the side

if it was corrected it says something like "SAE" or "STANDARD"
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Ah, cool.

Very strong tune either way, congrats!

Can't wait to see what your "monster" Evo IX number is going to be! 400/400?
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Question for War. i've heard diferent things about the SAFC though....when is the car really knocking?
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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Nez136
Question for War. i've heard diferent things about the SAFC though....when is the car really knocking?
Not sure what you mean. PM me with a more detailed question if you can.
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