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Poll: FMIC - Front Mount Intercooler

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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Do not buy the SSAC unit. You should take it off the list. If anyone still wants one I will sell you an almost new one for cheap.

I pick AMS. Love it.

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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1runner
This is crazy. This link shows the temps of the air inside the cooler before and after the core. I wonder how Buschur's race FMIC would do against the Nisei unit. It's not really a fare test seeing as this Nisei unit has a bigger core than buschur's deluxe unit.

Buschur\Jarod, can you guys post the same type of test with your Race FMIC?

Great post\info by the way DUROEVO.
Its a pretty fair and accurate test I shld think. It will be good for us if DB is willing to test his best intercooler against the Nisei though
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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DUROEVO,

I went to that forum and read more. Please request to test the BR FMIC? I'm going to go to a bigger FMIC when I go with a 3037 or GT35. I had the BR Race FMIC in my sights, but now I don't know. The have a flash video about intercoolers that's pretty good.

Originally Posted by LordEvoIX
Its a pretty fair and accurate test I shld think. It will be good for us if DB is willing to test his best intercooler against the Nisei though
I totally agree with you.

Last edited by LT1runner; Dec 29, 2005 at 07:57 PM.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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I'm currently deciding which to go with myself, this thread should help

Either AMS, Buschur, or that Niesi one looks apealing now.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Nisei all the way. The BR race FMIC seems to be the only other choice.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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NISEI wins my vote hands down. Only issue is fitment. They say you can't use your undertray.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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well Evillusion, Kevin at Nisei si working on the undertray situation....Word is hopefully by spring...
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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NISEI wins my vote hands down. Only issue is fitment. They say you can't use your undertray.

Cut and zip tie. Takes 10 minutes. If you want to go back to stock, undertrays can be found at local shops as well as fs section. Shouldn't be too hard to find a used one.

Kevin from Nisei is a good guy. He goes out of his way to make customers happy.

Below is one way to do it.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Evillusion
NISEI wins my vote hands down. Only issue is fitment. They say you can't use your undertray.

Yes you can still use the undertray but you have to cut out the high part that is under the stock fmic. Then you have to cut a section out of the "tow or tiedown point" access panel. The access panel still mounts at both ends though.

Heres the thing, unless they changed the design since May, only the top center, stock bolt holds the IC. Which I do not think is a problem with stock IC piping because it is well bracketed. However, how many after market IC systems have you seen with support brackets? I know of one, uh, Nisei. Keep that in mind if you have or had intent to buy other IC piping.

Other wise, it's a good cooler I think. A friend that helped me install my IC got the other leading brand afterwards and prefered mine due to poor fitment of his lower IC pipe and he had to delete the front screen.

Hindsight, APS looks real good.

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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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Buschur Deluxe fmic is great
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Quoted from AMS's post regarding their race intercooler:


-AMS RACE FMIC Core. 22" wide x 12.5" Tall x 4" Deep With 3" inlet and outlet pipes *our core is skinnier but it doesnt sacrifice any HP and makes install and bumper trimming a little bit easier*.


The dimensions on the Nisei FMIC are: 25" X 12.62" X 3.5"

then do some highschool math to figure out the volume.... which is: V= L X W X H

and for the AMS RACE = 1100.00
Nisei's FMIC = 1104.25

So from this both the AMS and NISEI look to be very similar.....

I'm going with Nisei
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8
Quoted from AMS's post regarding their race intercooler:


-AMS RACE FMIC Core. 22" wide x 12.5" Tall x 4" Deep With 3" inlet and outlet pipes *our core is skinnier but it doesnt sacrifice any HP and makes install and bumper trimming a little bit easier*.


The dimensions on the Nisei FMIC are: 25" X 12.62" X 3.5"

then do some highschool math to figure out the volume.... which is: V= L X W X H

and for the AMS RACE = 1100.00
Nisei's FMIC = 1104.25

So from this both the AMS and NISEI look to be very similar.....

I'm going with Nisei
You also should take into consideration the exposed surface area which helps with cooling 315 sq inches for the Nisei vs. 275 for the AMS. It's 15% more.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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i'm surprise DynoFlash is on that list. it would be the winner automaticly. :-)
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Yes you can still use the undertray but you have to cut out the high part that is under the stock fmic. Then you have to cut a section out of the "tow or tiedown point" access panel. The access panel still mounts at both ends though.

Heres the thing, unless they changed the design since May, only the top center, stock bolt holds the IC. Which I do not think is a problem with stock IC piping because it is well bracketed. However, how many after market IC systems have you seen with support brackets? I know of one, uh, Nisei. Keep that in mind if you have or had intent to buy other IC piping.

Other wise, it's a good cooler I think. A friend that helped me install my IC got the other leading brand afterwards and prefered mine due to poor fitment of his lower IC pipe and he had to delete the front screen.

Hindsight, APS looks real good.

My 02.
This FMIC seems like the winner hands down. Although that issue with the piping could be a problem, I plan on going with a turbo later on so it would come with its own lower IC pipe and the upper I guess i'd have to go with Nisei?

What are you guys using for piping with your Nesei FMIC?
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sleet
This FMIC seems like the winner hands down. Although that issue with the piping could be a problem, I plan on going with a turbo later on so it would come with its own lower IC pipe and the upper I guess i'd have to go with Nisei?

What are you guys using for piping with your Nesei FMIC?
I'm using Logic Performance pipes, but you can use any pipes that fit the stock intercooler
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