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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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ok thats not very good power. i made that power with only open dp and mbc.
No, actually you'd be around 260 whp on the dyno he used.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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how so dyno jet come in the low number i thought.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Dynojets give the highest numbers.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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o **** i need to go to a mustang dyno then
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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so I'm a little confused....just based on the two combos the thread started asked:

264/272 - better mid end and high end power (torque/hp)
272/264 - better low end and mid end power (torque/hp)

is that right?

Cams are on the roadmap for myself as well this year and I'm interested in the following:
1) Close to stock idle (little to no lopiness)
2) No loss in stock throttle response/torque
3) Mostly track days, once in awhile drag strip days.
4) Daily Driveability
5) Obviously good increased power

Which is the best setup?

264/272 seems to be a lot more common than 272/264, I'm curious on why this is? More interest in higher powerband?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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on a stock turbo. but then is saying want 264/272 more top end why not do 272/280
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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the main reason why i wouldn't consider 272 and 280s is because of either bad to erratic idle and the lopiness factor. i've gone through too many idle problems to deal with those kinds of issues again.

yes this would be stock turbo.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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humm but what if it was a auto x car or road race does not mattor about idel
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
Dynojets give the highest numbers.
Beat me to it!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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i change my mind i imma go with 272 272
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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i change my mind i imma go with 272 272

how come
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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peak whp is nice, but if you look at the drivability and the different characteristic of the cars that have different cams, you'll appreciate not reading things on a piece of paper.

I have 272/264 setup, the torque is just about amazing. I will take off with another evo that has about 80whp more on me and take him off the roll without boost braking.

Power is immediate and if you track your Evo, there is no lag, no lack of power and it literally feels like a v8 when you step on the throttle.

I'm not a real big fan of things taking forever to get to. Top end is nice, but if you don't much care about drag racing, and u have a daily driven evo that you track/auto-x on weekends, 272/264 is right on.

It really doesn't matter how much torque you get up top, since you make it at bottom to mid end. And honestly, it's not that bad up top.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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how about 264/272 have you tried that way at all.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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I drove one with it. It seems there is that lag before all the power pours out and you feel it.

high end is definitely on 264/264 and 264/272, but that's something I don't want. before 4000 or so, there isn't much to look at.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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I have 272/264 setup, the torque is just about amazing. I will take off with another evo that has about 80whp more on me and take him off the roll without boost braking.

Power is immediate and if you track your Evo, there is no lag, no lack of power and it literally feels like a v8 when you step on the throttle.

I'm not a real big fan of things taking forever to get to. Top end is nice, but if you don't much care about drag racing, and u have a daily driven evo that you track/auto-x on weekends, 272/264 is right on.

It really doesn't matter how much torque you get up top, since you make it at bottom to mid end. And honestly, it's not that bad up top.
Thats a lot of heresay dont you think? There is no proof from what Ive seen that the 272/264 is any better than other setups. Im quite cranky about spool up and early torque (midrange) since I do roll-on racing more often then dig racing and my car is an absolute monster down low. 80whp more EVO you take off on.... ok well maybe he has a bigger turbo.. compare apples to apples... 80whp difference between stock turbo'd cars cammed is not existant as far as I know... unless your 300whp and someone else is 380whp. I dunno about you, but Im 378whp and I made 386ft/lbs at 3700rpm and my powerband looks like that of an all motor car. BTW I have 272/272s.
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