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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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I recently fried my pistons and rods and I 'm now trying to rebuild my engine. However im not sure what to build my engine with in terms of pistons or rods. And if i should get valves and retainers while im at it.

This car is my daily driver and I'm on the stock turbo and probably wont be able to get a bigger turbo for a while but if anything ill go with a 20g.

Any suggestions or advice?

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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contact any of the big vendors.. are you sure you can handle this job.. these newer 4g's have some odd quirks to them..
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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if you can afford it, just buy a Cosworth head, slap in some Omega pistons, Eagle or HKS rods, ARP head bolts, Cometic head gasket. & while you're at it, slap on some Tomei 280 cams (11.8 lift), HKS cam gears, & Tomei kevlar timing belt. the Cosworth head will already have new valve guides, & retainers. your head will then pull to 9k rpm all day long after a tune of course...
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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If I was building a daily driver from the ground up, from my existing block I would simply do a 2.3 stroker kit. You'll probably have to have the bores honed anyway with the rebuild and why not go for a bit more displacement. You can get good power gains on a relatively stock car on the stock turbo.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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BIG MONEY....


Originally Posted by housedj
if you can afford it, just buy a Cosworth head, slap in some Omega pistons, Eagle or HKS rods, ARP head bolts, Cometic head gasket. & while you're at it, slap on some Tomei 280 cams (11.8 lift), HKS cam gears, & Tomei kevlar timing belt. the Cosworth head will already have new valve guides, & retainers. your head will then pull to 9k rpm all day long after a tune of course...
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg K
If I was building a daily driver from the ground up, from my existing block I would simply do a 2.3 stroker kit. You'll probably have to have the bores honed anyway with the rebuild and why not go for a bit more displacement. You can get good power gains on a relatively stock car on the stock turbo.
I agree. Just make sure you go with a very reputable engine builder (i.e. get several references, and talk to them). And ask about expected oil consumption up front. One thing to note, if you do go with a 2.3, then don't expect too much out of your stock turbo, it will run out of steam around 6000 rpms, if not a little earlier. A 20g or WR should fix that, though.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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And ask about expected oil consumption up front.
Agreed.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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anybody know how a stroker is daily driven
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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My idea:
New OEM bottom end
Buschur head
ARP headstuds
HKS 272/272 cams
Buschur 20g
all other needed supporting mods...and a good tune!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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If its going to be daily driven and you want it to last a while I would go with wiseco pistons which can run nice tight clearence's and some crower rods. Depending on how extreme you want the car to be you could always get a galant crank and make it a 2.3 or go a full 2.4 4g64 block.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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If you need expert advice about the 2.3 stroker contact ams.

www.amstuned.com
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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call up ams or buschur
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueFastEvoVIII
anybody know how a stroker is daily driven

They are delicious. Once you drive one you won't want to go back to a 2.0. But the cost is a lot higher.

It'll cost $6-7 K just to get a 2.3/2.4 in there, if you want a turbo kit to fit it around $10K. Plan on down time 2-3 weeks longer with any built motor. It just seems to work out that way.

You can buy a brand new 2.0 dealer shortblock delivered for about $2k with a core and get your block r and r'd for about $1000 - $1500. I've posted where a few times so thread search if interested.

Another thing about the strokers is the little turbos get amazing torque but run out of steam up top, but as a daily driver you don't use the top and they're way fun in traffic - you can jump v8's with them on pump gas.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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im going to call up buschur and ams sometime this week also do i need to get the car re tuned if i go 2.3? Im guessing yes but will a flash work
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