400AWHP Suggestions
Originally Posted by Takahashi
Hm... Actually, if you go to MAC autosport which is prolly an hours worth of drive for both of us, Nick there will tell you the truth. He's tuned over hundreds of evo's with that set up and seen them range all the way from 300whp to 330 whp. He also said that Alky injection is crap and that he'll guarantee anyone with an evo that he'll get them 390 to the wheels with those mods plus cam shafts, injectors and that lower ic pipe. I don't really know where that crank pulley came from... but if you have any objections, go ask the Mac people. Scott there will tell you the same thing. Tommy at Street Concepts will also say the same thing.
. So this guy tells you 390whp (stock turbo, pump gas at that elevation). He then goes on to say alcohol injection in crap? 
Woaaah I think I wouldnt visit that place... I find it strikingly peculiar anyone could be believe that.Please point out 1 EVO on this board, yeah just ONE with the stock turbo and pump gas (91-94) making even 380whp, not even 390. Of course without "crappy" alcohol injection. Lemme know when you find one
His comments were almost as bad as the shoip who said cams will hurt power on the stock turbo
Last edited by Soon2BEVO; Feb 9, 2006 at 08:12 AM.
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Youre kidding right . So this guy tells you 390whp (stock turbo, pump gas at that elevation). He then goes on to say alcohol injection in crap? Woaaah I think I wouldnt visit that place... I find it strikingly peculiar anyone could be believe that.
Please point out 1 EVO on this board, yeah just ONE with the stock turbo and pump gas (91-94) making even 380whp, not even 390. Of course without "crappy" alcohol injection. Lemme know when you find one
His comments were almost as bad as the shoip who said cams will hurt power on the stock turbo
. So this guy tells you 390whp (stock turbo, pump gas at that elevation). He then goes on to say alcohol injection in crap? Woaaah I think I wouldnt visit that place... I find it strikingly peculiar anyone could be believe that.Please point out 1 EVO on this board, yeah just ONE with the stock turbo and pump gas (91-94) making even 380whp, not even 390. Of course without "crappy" alcohol injection. Lemme know when you find one
His comments were almost as bad as the shoip who said cams will hurt power on the stock turbo
I had thought Street Concepts was good to go, because several members on here have them in their sig and are sponsored by them to some degree, but when Takahashi included them in this farcical claim about 390whp on pump gas, it makes me doubt. It also makes me doubt when I hear how they try to push the SAFC so much...
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
First of all, it's pretty unlikley that you have 320whp with those mods on an 03, and to get to 400whp, you just need to search.
The first thing I'd do is get rid of that TXS MBC, then get cams, alky, 10.5, licp, manifold, and o2 housing.
The first thing I'd do is get rid of that TXS MBC, then get cams, alky, 10.5, licp, manifold, and o2 housing.
I love reading about 900whp monsters, but knowing just how far I want to go without going nutty (replacing turbos, breaking things, ect) would be nice to see in one place. Searching will yield many, many results, and if you are not sure what criteria to seach for you have to educate (not a bad thing) yourself along the way also dealing with the flame wars between tuning camps, opinions, incorrect information, and just plain BS - that type of critical thinking is becoming rare nowadays
The years I've been here I have a good idea about what it takes for the realistic lower whp goals, but that's with daily reading...for years.I like your no BS style Warrtalon, can get get a sticky, or maybe a link to your site with these results?
300whp
350whp
400whp
450whp, ad nausium.
Thanx!
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yeah, these guys are being fed some major bull out here, and I intend to remedy the situation. I've synced up with a local shop who is interested in dominating the local Evo market, and with what I've been hearing related to these other shops, it will be easy. This shop is close to me and will have a DynoDynamics dyno very soon, so I'm in good shape as long as they let me do the talking/consulting instead of doing what these others shops are doing.
I had thought Street Concepts was good to go, because several members on here have them in their sig and are sponsored by them to some degree, but when Takahashi included them in this farcical claim about 390whp on pump gas, it makes me doubt. It also makes me doubt when I hear how they try to push the SAFC so much...
I had thought Street Concepts was good to go, because several members on here have them in their sig and are sponsored by them to some degree, but when Takahashi included them in this farcical claim about 390whp on pump gas, it makes me doubt. It also makes me doubt when I hear how they try to push the SAFC so much...
Its a shame they are that ignorant. Also a shame some of these guys believe them. Here at EVOm we have 1000s of EVO owners, with track times, dynos, etc. 95% of us still have the stock turbo and the numbers are out there. How could anyone believe those claims when not one of the thousands of members on here has them? Comeon now! Im happy to hear your taking care of the situation out there because it needs it!
Originally Posted by DrMerl
I like your no BS style Warrtalon, can get get a sticky, or maybe a link to your site with these results?
300whp - Warrtalon Stage 2 (tbe/mbc/bov/fp/flash)
330-340whp - Cams/LICP
380-390whp - Alky/manifold/o2
Beyond this, you need a turbo upgrade, and that's outside my experience.
Originally Posted by Sharkbite2000
Just get stand alone, injectors, mbc hit over 400awhp no problem .
Originally Posted by Warrtalon
First of all, it's pretty unlikley that you have 320whp with those mods on an 03, and to get to 400whp, you just need to search.
The first thing I'd do is get rid of that TXS MBC, then get cams, alky, 10.5, licp, manifold, and o2 housing.
The first thing I'd do is get rid of that TXS MBC, then get cams, alky, 10.5, licp, manifold, and o2 housing.
HA HA HA!!!
YOU not even have 400WHP 
Originally Posted by edwin
HA HA HA!!! YOU not even have 400WHP
YOU not even have 400WHP Seriously, keep the comments on topic and non-moronic. Yours was neither. If you want to flame someone, PM them. Oh, and you dont have 400whp either?
