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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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I would buy a IX if the paint was better....Mitsu has to have the worst paintjobs in existance.
Not really ... Nissan's Z paint sucks *****
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Not really ... Nissan's Z paint sucks *****
Subarus paint is also terrible , i used to own one
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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Ok so who the hell has good paint?
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Ok so who the hell has good paint?
Bmw, Porsche, mercedes
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Dont forget lexus ... LOL
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Dont forget lexus ... LOL
Off topic, but that avatar is niiiiiiiiiice
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Off topic, but that avatar is niiiiiiiiiice

Yea its some UK **** star / car model I'm a fan of her work Forget her name thou


EDIT: Remembered ... its Natasha Marley ... do a google image search
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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Yea its some UK **** star / car model I'm a fan of her work Forget her name thou


EDIT: Remembered ... its Natasha Marley ... do a google image search
hehehehehehehehe
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Precision Dyno
Actually this is incorrect. The 9 ecu does not have more resolution.
Just the ability to read higher airflow values in the base maping. More resolution would mean that the load and rpm blocks would increase but not the end set of parameters. Meaning that if the rpm scale started at 0 and ended at 7500 with 10 rpm sites it would be a base scale. If it had more resolution they would still end and begin with the same values but, they would have more that 10 blocks of rpm sites.
The block also does not have any revised or reconfigured coolant passages. The head passages were made a bit more unrestrictive to allow the coolant to flow with less restriction. There by not allowing the heat to soak into the head and surounding areas.
Well then I stand corrected, thanks for clearing that up.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Maybe its the air, or the elevation but your cars arn't running at peak boost.
You peak should be around 20psi.
Yes, altitude does take its toll... That soon will change once new parts get flung into the mix
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TrinaBabe
What Mivec is: A poor companies idea to try to copy V-Tech... Vtech is two different cam lobes on each cam. It can switch from say a 262->280 at high revs. Actually useful.

Mivec is adjustable cam gears... at higher revs it adjusts your cam gears... its not going to make that big a difference.

The turbo is what makes 95% of the power. The MiVec tries to make the power output linear but really isnt going to give you much.

The different coolant passages in the head are interesting, I would like to see how it helps out with knock control.
HAHAHAHA adjusting your cams gears its not going to make that big of a difference?!? ... the McLaren F1 used Single VANOS (just on the intake side like ours)... to produce the fastest production car during it's time.. not only that it keep it's title for many a years...

the M3/M5 uses a Double VANOS system.. that makes more 100+bhp/liter... and we arent talking about 2liter 4 cyc with no tq..... talking about a 3.2L with 333bhp and equal TQ... and have TQ across the board in the m3... i dont want to even wnat to get into the M5....

Porche uses their Variocam system... which they have uses to reach their unbelievable power bands for their cars...

MIVEC has the potential an ****ING amazing system it just needs time.... look at the Honda Crews... they all talked bad on I-Vtec ... that was until they found out how to tune it properly ... and they have unleshed stupid numbers (for Hondas) out of their K motors...
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EVIL_EVO_VIII
Bmw, Porsche, mercedes
+ Saabs. The new ones painted in Trollhattan have freaking awesome paint. Brand new facility. (Obviously this doesn't include the Saabaru or that 9-7 POS)
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rcebowl
HAHAHAHA adjusting your cams gears its not going to make that big of a difference?!? ... the McLaren F1 used Single VANOS (just on the intake side like ours)... to produce the fastest production car during it's time.. not only that it keep it's title for many a years...

the M3/M5 uses a Double VANOS system.. that makes more 100+bhp/liter... and we arent talking about 2liter 4 cyc with no tq..... talking about a 3.2L with 333bhp and equal TQ... and have TQ across the board in the m3... i dont want to even wnat to get into the M5....

Porche uses their Variocam system... which they have uses to reach their unbelievable power bands for their cars...

MIVEC has the potential an ****ING amazing system it just needs time.... look at the Honda Crews... they all talked bad on I-Vtec ... that was until they found out how to tune it properly ... and they have unleshed stupid numbers (for Hondas) out of their K motors...
Is what I am getting as is peak performance... not midrange stuff. I dont see the point of midrange power in any type of "race-like" car. If you leave it stock, then great... it is a nice addition but try thinking of this.... almost every person modding thier car on this site has or wants to use cams... cams kill the low end and give it top end. That right there starts killing the MiVEC... now think of turbo upgrades... again, making the MiVEC pointless, or intake manifolds, etc, etc.... MOST aftermarket power parts are designed to make more power up high (And as a side effect, lower the midrange power). If people dont mind doing this, then why care about MiVEC?

Its just pointless for people to really think this is some great addition. What do they honestly expect the MiVEC to do for them? Its not going to give them some advantage... maybe on a bone stock car but even then... in a race it wont matter because you shouldnt be driving under 5k anyways if racing. If you mod the car it will make it worse, you need to try to find someone to custom make you a cam as opposed to us which have our choices from tons of different cams.

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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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And my car makes over 250HP/Liter... would it go to 300 if I had MiVEC or what?
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TrinaBabe
... no, it will not give you any more peak power, nor hold it any longer.
I don't agree with that at all. No offense, but have you read much about pulse-tuning and cyllinder-filling and how they both depend on valve timing? (Not just lift and duration.) Ever re-degree'd one of your camshafts?

Being able to map and adjust the lobe centerline angles can yeild substantial benefits. It allows you to adjust your IVC based on RPM or your valve overlap based on boost, etc etc etc.

Extremely usefull, but not as well understood as larger turbos and stroker motors.
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