Is it the MIVEC or Turbo????
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Great find Razorlab ... data is what we need and as you said, if the car had a test pipe and cam gears adjusted properly it could pick up 10-15HP ... which would go to show there is a gain using the EVO9 turbo over the EVO8 turbo. I wonder if temperature conditions didn't affect the readings? Was your car and the 03 dynoed in the same day or under similar conditions?
Mike @ gruppe-s tuned the 03 with the IX Turbo, He did an amazing job for it to make that much power with the high flow cat and those cams on that dyno. That is another reason I posted that overlay.
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Im definitely keeping my VIII now, its not worth trading it in! After seeing this, seems 90-95% of the power of the IX vs the VIII is the new turbo. Ill just get the Gt35R just like i planned to 
Originally Posted by TrinaBabe
In thoery, like I said, it is a fine thing... do I think in the real world will people honestly go that far (If possible).. not really. Personally I think people will come out with the equivelent of the comp 300's or HKS 280s in a year or two. Yes, it will help it idle and I did agree to that already. I just dont see it being anything that people trying to build fast cars with large turbos will ever honestly want to upgrade to. Im not an engineer... Im not even a race driver, this is my thoughts on it. This started as a debate on whether it could produce more power, now it is on if it could idle a car better 
Its a pointless debate, only time will tell if it is honestly going to do anything for "race like" cars.
Its a pointless debate, only time will tell if it is honestly going to do anything for "race like" cars.
Your very correct Triny. I still dont see it being an item worth much, even to roadracing and autocross. Again, this is my personal opinion and until otherwise Im sticking with it And I dont think Im gonna see anyone bother to take a IX and swap heads just to prove how great it is
And I dont think Im gonna see anyone bother to take a IX and swap heads just to prove how great it is
well for me... it's not about being like warr... i'm not such a hard ***... live and let live. drag racing has it's place... and that place is in your life. for me... it's all about running 275s on the street! i'm sure you'd run those drag radials on teh street if you could!
If I had drag radials I would
My car is more of a second (Or 4th) car if you will. I drive a Lincon Towncar, or an AWD Astro Van, or a 1st gen Eclipse mainly around town. I dont feel the need to warm up my Evo for 10 minutes just to drive it 10 blocks to work Plus it sucks as a winter mobile because of the ABS and the power it makes. I mainly drive it on my days off or when I feel the need to go fast It still does turn better than any of my other vehicles so its not JUST a straight line car... I just dont see myself autocrossing the thing in the near future (Maybe i will just to have some fun).
My car is more of a second (Or 4th) car if you will. I drive a Lincon Towncar, or an AWD Astro Van, or a 1st gen Eclipse mainly around town. I dont feel the need to warm up my Evo for 10 minutes just to drive it 10 blocks to work
Plus it sucks as a winter mobile because of the ABS and the power it makes. I mainly drive it on my days off or when I feel the need to go fast It still does turn better than any of my other vehicles so its not JUST a straight line car... I just dont see myself autocrossing the thing in the near future (Maybe i will just to have some fun).
I did it a few times... just not fast enough for me... If I can do it all in a parkinglot Im not going fast enough That again is only my opinion... many people love the death out of it.
That again is only my opinion... many people love the death out of it.
Originally Posted by trinydex
razorlab's setup looks real good how you get that power curve to stick lik ethat up top?
Also messing with timing via the ECU+ helped alot with the 720cc's. 91 octane doesn't like much timing up top or you will knock and lose power.
It's even better with 100 octane as you can probably imagine.
I would probably love road racing... the problem is the budget
When I decide to do something I am going to go semi-all out. All out on a road race car takes much more than a drag race car. You build the motor and toss the weight as you would a drag car but then you also add in full suspension for another 5k. Then you need to worry about keeping it cool, keeping brakes cool, tires burn up faster than drag tires, you need to do over a grand of brakes, etc, etc....
One day I will build another Evo into a road race car. For now, Drag Racing works... it takes alot more skill than most people that dont do it think. Especially when you start getting past the 11s.
When I decide to do something I am going to go semi-all out. All out on a road race car takes much more than a drag race car. You build the motor and toss the weight as you would a drag car but then you also add in full suspension for another 5k. Then you need to worry about keeping it cool, keeping brakes cool, tires burn up faster than drag tires, you need to do over a grand of brakes, etc, etc....
One day I will build another Evo into a road race car. For now, Drag Racing works... it takes alot more skill than most people that dont do it think. Especially when you start getting past the 11s.
Originally Posted by TrinaBabe
I would probably love road racing... the problem is the budget
When I decide to do something I am going to go semi-all out. All out on a road race car takes much more than a drag race car. You build the motor and toss the weight as you would a drag car but then you also add in full suspension for another 5k. Then you need to worry about keeping it cool, keeping brakes cool, tires burn up faster than drag tires, you need to do over a grand of brakes, etc, etc....
One day I will build another Evo into a road race car. For now, Drag Racing works... it takes alot more skill than most people that dont do it think. Especially when you start getting past the 11s.
When I decide to do something I am going to go semi-all out. All out on a road race car takes much more than a drag race car. You build the motor and toss the weight as you would a drag car but then you also add in full suspension for another 5k. Then you need to worry about keeping it cool, keeping brakes cool, tires burn up faster than drag tires, you need to do over a grand of brakes, etc, etc....
One day I will build another Evo into a road race car. For now, Drag Racing works... it takes alot more skill than most people that dont do it think. Especially when you start getting past the 11s.
Yeah but track days still cost $400 for a full day of racing i heard. On top of that, brake pads and tires will cost me alot. And if I road raced I would not let anything left untapped.... the tires and pads would last one day. The clutch I wouldnt see holding to well because I would modulate it in corners keeping my full power on tap through and at the end of each corner... Thats why I quit autocrossing... I figured out to regain boost took some time so I learned to kick or slip the clutch throughout and the end of the real tight corners giving me full power coming through and exiting them. Needless to say the stock clutch didnt last me long.