JDM EVO IX Tested & Tuned
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To bolt on you will need to cut your factory turbo outlet pipe, re-angle, weld, and reinstall. Since it is a mild-steel unit any competent muffler shop should be able to do this for you. We will also have a fix out in about 3-4 weeks.
Thanks!!
Gary
Gruppe-S
Thanks!!
Gary
Gruppe-S
Originally Posted by Gruppe-S
To bolt on you will need to cut your factory turbo outlet pipe, re-angle, weld, and reinstall. Since it is a mild-steel unit any competent muffler shop should be able to do this for you. We will also have a fix out in about 3-4 weeks.
Thanks!!
Gary
Gruppe-S
Thanks!!
Gary
Gruppe-S
Originally Posted by Gruppe-S
Just wanted to add our results for the EVO IX Turbo 
Before I get flamed, please keep in mind that our dyno is one of the earlier MD 4WD dynos. A stock EVO VIII comes in at 210whp, and I cannot recall ever having seen a stock turbo EVO VIII break 300whp on our dyno on 91 octane (regardless of mods). 400whp will get you low 11's on our dyno, 430whp will put you in the 10's.
The customer's vehicle had the following modifications:
*264 / 272 cams, cam gears
*02 housing, downpipe, exhaust
*CATTED
*720cc injectors, walbro pump
A car like this will usually come in at about 260whp to 270whp. The customer's car baselined at 265whp. We added only the EVO IX turbo and the ECUTEK tune.
Results:
*Faster spool up than the EVO VIII turbo
*Better boost response than the EVO VIII turbo
*No boost instability compared ot the EVO VIII turbo (this can be usually tuned around, it's just no there anymore however).
*The car left with 300whp, 280ft/lbs of torque.
Conclusion:
This turbo is worth about 15-20whp over the EVO VIII turbo. Given a 272 cammed car with the cat removed, we firmly believe this would have been a 310-315 whp car. Considering the majority of 272 / catless cars cannot break 285whp on our dyno, this is a fairly achievement for a 91 octane pump gas turbo. Taken with the fact that this turbo performs better than the stock turbo in both spool up and response, the new EVO IX turbo is truly remarkable. Highly recommend for the Auto-X / Road race customer looking for that broad midrange power.
Cheers,
Gary
www.gruppe-s.com
gary@gruppe-s.com
510-783-5300
510-783-4300 fax
Before I get flamed, please keep in mind that our dyno is one of the earlier MD 4WD dynos. A stock EVO VIII comes in at 210whp, and I cannot recall ever having seen a stock turbo EVO VIII break 300whp on our dyno on 91 octane (regardless of mods). 400whp will get you low 11's on our dyno, 430whp will put you in the 10's.
The customer's vehicle had the following modifications:
*264 / 272 cams, cam gears
*02 housing, downpipe, exhaust
*CATTED
*720cc injectors, walbro pump
A car like this will usually come in at about 260whp to 270whp. The customer's car baselined at 265whp. We added only the EVO IX turbo and the ECUTEK tune.
Results:
*Faster spool up than the EVO VIII turbo
*Better boost response than the EVO VIII turbo
*No boost instability compared ot the EVO VIII turbo (this can be usually tuned around, it's just no there anymore however).
*The car left with 300whp, 280ft/lbs of torque.
Conclusion:
This turbo is worth about 15-20whp over the EVO VIII turbo. Given a 272 cammed car with the cat removed, we firmly believe this would have been a 310-315 whp car. Considering the majority of 272 / catless cars cannot break 285whp on our dyno, this is a fairly achievement for a 91 octane pump gas turbo. Taken with the fact that this turbo performs better than the stock turbo in both spool up and response, the new EVO IX turbo is truly remarkable. Highly recommend for the Auto-X / Road race customer looking for that broad midrange power.
Cheers,
Gary
www.gruppe-s.com
gary@gruppe-s.com
510-783-5300
510-783-4300 fax
Originally Posted by Kee1pride
yikes. see that doesn't seem like you just take off a few bolts and pop in something else. talk about WAY off evil_evo_viii.
in the kit is the new pipe the gruppe-s was talking about having to change.
jeez take a look at what he's saying before just posting "your wrong"
and as far as the wheels go...
i thought that the JDM versions still had the magnesium wheels that we don't get here.
gruppe-s can you do a little more research into this when you get a minute?
i do know that the guys in the UK were having problems with the mag wheels coming apart when
bumping up boost but i haven't looked back into this for a bit.
Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
So there was a 15-20whp gain but he went from 9.8 to 10.5....
The gain from the 9.8 to IX turbo is of course, more. Like going from a 9.8 to a 10.5 hotside + whatever advantage the IX turbo gives you.
I would never post "your wrong" because its grammatically incorrect. -_- It would be "you're wrong".
Regardless~
Where he lost points with me is just saying "oh la di da its just an install kit" to do everything. While I was asking "what difficulties will I go through bolting this up?" He never mentioned anything about cutting, welding and fabrication. Totally new ballpark as I can't do that stuff.
Regardless~
Where he lost points with me is just saying "oh la di da its just an install kit" to do everything. While I was asking "what difficulties will I go through bolting this up?" He never mentioned anything about cutting, welding and fabrication. Totally new ballpark as I can't do that stuff.
you got me.i hate when people screw those up. not even sure why it bugs me so much.
don't even get me started on there, their, and they're
that's the thing, with the buschur kit there is no cutting. it comes with the proper shorter pipe.
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Haha ... this is what I have been saying all along most of the gain the EVO 9 sees (more power, earlier spool) is because of the Turbo ... not mivec as some of the tuners have claimed 
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Thanks Gruppe-S
...Thanks Gruppe-S
Why do I feel that you are hating on the Mivec? Are you smarter than Mitsu? There is no 10% here and 90% there. The smoothness of the IX and the power it delivers is a mix in everything starting from the turbo through the head ending with the muffler.
People are picking the IX to keep their warranty. Can you keep your warranty after slapping a nine turbo in?
Even an 8 with IX turbo wont make as much power.
Furthermore, it’s only the beginning of tuning the IX as tuners have just released their flashes. Vishnu does not have one of his own yet and Works will have theirs out in 6 weeks. Al has one I believe. Give them 1 year and the same IX that makes 370 will make 390WHP.
Remember when EVOS cam out? They used to make 300 WHP with cams but suddenly after many tunes tuners started to extract more power, ALOT MORE POWER.
Don't hate on the IX its just another EVO.
Originally Posted by Kee1pride
yikes. see that doesn't seem like you just take off a few bolts and pop in something else. talk about WAY off evil_evo_viii.
Originally Posted by EVIL_EVO_VIII
do yourself a favor and call buschur and order the kit, it will make it easier for you, that way you DONT have to cup pipes and it is DIRECT bolt on!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by Gruppe-S
Just wanted to add our results for the EVO IX Turbo
Before I get flamed, please keep in mind that our dyno is one of the earlier MD 4WD dynos. A stock EVO VIII comes in at 210whp, and I cannot recall ever having seen a stock turbo EVO VIII break 300whp on our dyno on 91 octane (regardless of mods). 400whp will get you low 11's on our dyno, 430whp will put you in the 10's.
The customer's vehicle had the following modifications:
*264 / 272 cams, cam gears
*02 housing, downpipe, exhaust
*CATTED
*720cc injectors, walbro pump
A car like this will usually come in at about 260whp to 270whp. The customer's car baselined at 265whp. We added only the EVO IX turbo and the ECUTEK tune.
Results:
*Faster spool up than the EVO VIII turbo
*Better boost response than the EVO VIII turbo
*No boost instability compared ot the EVO VIII turbo (this can be usually tuned around, it's just no there anymore however).
*The car left with 300whp, 280ft/lbs of torque.
Conclusion:
This turbo is worth about 15-20whp over the EVO VIII turbo. Given a 272 cammed car with the cat removed, we firmly believe this would have been a 310-315 whp car. Considering the majority of 272 / catless cars cannot break 285whp on our dyno, this is a fairly achievement for a 91 octane pump gas turbo. Taken with the fact that this turbo performs better than the stock turbo in both spool up and response, the new EVO IX turbo is truly remarkable. Highly recommend for the Auto-X / Road race customer looking for that broad midrange power.
Cheers,
Gary
www.gruppe-s.com
gary@gruppe-s.com
510-783-5300
510-783-4300 fax
Before I get flamed, please keep in mind that our dyno is one of the earlier MD 4WD dynos. A stock EVO VIII comes in at 210whp, and I cannot recall ever having seen a stock turbo EVO VIII break 300whp on our dyno on 91 octane (regardless of mods). 400whp will get you low 11's on our dyno, 430whp will put you in the 10's.
The customer's vehicle had the following modifications:
*264 / 272 cams, cam gears
*02 housing, downpipe, exhaust
*CATTED
*720cc injectors, walbro pump
A car like this will usually come in at about 260whp to 270whp. The customer's car baselined at 265whp. We added only the EVO IX turbo and the ECUTEK tune.
Results:
*Faster spool up than the EVO VIII turbo
*Better boost response than the EVO VIII turbo
*No boost instability compared ot the EVO VIII turbo (this can be usually tuned around, it's just no there anymore however).
*The car left with 300whp, 280ft/lbs of torque.
Conclusion:
This turbo is worth about 15-20whp over the EVO VIII turbo. Given a 272 cammed car with the cat removed, we firmly believe this would have been a 310-315 whp car. Considering the majority of 272 / catless cars cannot break 285whp on our dyno, this is a fairly achievement for a 91 octane pump gas turbo. Taken with the fact that this turbo performs better than the stock turbo in both spool up and response, the new EVO IX turbo is truly remarkable. Highly recommend for the Auto-X / Road race customer looking for that broad midrange power.
Cheers,
Gary
www.gruppe-s.com
gary@gruppe-s.com
510-783-5300
510-783-4300 fax
All we need is some race gas numbers........
Originally Posted by Cali2MDevo8
Thought they did NOT have an intake cam for the MIVEC yet?
Did i miss a release of a cam for the new MIVEC?
Did i miss a release of a cam for the new MIVEC?
read again, he said IX turbo on the evo VIII.
