yes it will work with no problem!

 

I don't know if someone mentioned this, but JDM IX Turbo is different than USDM IX turbo.

It's like 6.5 TME, but with a different twin scroll design.

USDM IX turbo doesn't have the titanium magnesium turbine and shaft.

How much is the JDM IX Turbo go for?

 

ordered

 

nice

 

Far from it Az3ar, ofcourse I don't know as much as ... but neither does anyone else, this also includes the tuners. That is what I'm trying to point out, most of the tuners came out and said most of the gains the 9 has over the 8 is because of MIVEC. I just didn't agree with them because on BMI engineers came out and said the 9 turbo was responsible for most of the low to mid range gain because of an upgraded diffuser design and MIVEC was there to help the engine become more fuel efficient and emissions compliant.
The STi has active valve control system (similar to MIVEC, VTEC, etc) that none of the tuners wowed about over the EVO. Hell Mazdaspeed engineers took out vaiable valve timing from the regular mx-5 miata when they designed and built the mazdaspeed miata because they claimed that vvt didn't do much for power gain on the mazdaspeed miata. They said it made it more complex and less robust. But as soon as the EVO got it most tuners were quick to say MIVEC was responsible for most of the power output. I didn't know whether they were right but it contradicts with what had said
I thought the true test would be an EVO8 and EVO9 both with the EVO9 turbo and identical mods (eg: only TBE). Then tune and dyno them and compare the graphs. If the 9 still has a significant advantage (more than 10WHP) then it would be because of the MIVEC, revise head, revised pistons and revised ECU. But if it is less then 10WHP then most of the gain would be because of the turbo and the other stuff wouldn't mean much. I've been one who was vocal saying it was mostly the EVO 9 turbo and not MIVEC that was responsible for the gains.
Here is the thing, tuning is not rocket science and if a tuner does a good job to begin with there will be no magical gain over time. All factors, like AFR, boost, ignition advance, boost under load, etc will be safely pushed to their limit. Look at the Shiv's and Work's tunes, they haven't changed since they originally tuned the EVO. I'm not knocking Al in anyway, he has come a long way from when he first started tuning EVOs and I now believe he is on the same level as Shiv. Infact, Al was the only one who agreed with me that most of the gain was because of the turbo. There hasn't been any magical gain with them. I respect the tuners and I know they know much more than I do, but I don't think they know more than ....
If you are happy with your EVO9, I am happy for you ... especially after the turbo upgrade you did on the EVO8 and the things that happened between you and the Vishnu group. No hate man just looking for some answers ...

 

Um ok, but they tuned a 2003 (with a 9.8) and theyre saying they think the EVO IX turbo is worth 15-20HP over the EVO VIII turbo. So your assuming theyre talking about the EVO8-10.5 turbo? I just want to know whyd theyd make a claim about HP gains over a certain turbo they didnt test (specificially the 10.5 8 turbo).

 

I think someone needs a lesson in math:
car comes in with stock 8 turbo with 9.8 and baselines at 265WHP
car has stock 9 turbo put on and leaves with 300WHP

total gain = 300-265 = 35WHP

if the car had a stock 8 turbo with 10.5 it would have baselined 280WHP because a 10.5 usually gives you 15WHP more. Which means the stock 9 turbo is good for 15-20WHP more than the stock 8 turbo with 10.5 ...
What's so hard to understand?

 

Thats funny. Maybe you need a reading lesson, because my math skills are great. In the first post Gary said it got the EVOIX turbo and an ECUTEK tune. So that 35whp is from the turbo AND the tune.

If they just strapped on the turbo and tuned it alone, OK, but it said NOTHING about a previous tune... if it did have one, it should have been written in there dont you tihnk?

 

Well what I said was more from what I am seeing with that 03 with IX turbo overlayed upon my cars curves. If you put a testpipe and did the same cam gear changes I did on my car, I can see it making about 15-20whp more than my 10.5 hotside 05.

Sounds right to me. Maybe someone wants to give me a IX turbo for my car and then we can really tell what the gains are from a 10.5 05 turbo to a IX turbo.

 

Ok, that makes sense the way you put it, but the original wording in the first post just didnt impress me. 35whp from a turbo upgrade AND a flash.. ya know.

 

Ummm, okay you don't think a car would have to have a prior tune with the following mods:
The customer's vehicle had the following modifications:
*264 / 272 cams, cam gears
*02 housing, downpipe, exhaust
*CATTED
*720cc injectors, walbro pump

cams, 720 injectors and fuel pump alone would need a flash
common sense ...

 

yes agreed the original post is a little confusing.

He did have a tune before to make the 265awhp, which btw, isn't shabby for a catted 9.8 hotside car on that dyno.

 

Umm okay, why dont you stop being a ***** with that condescending attitude, its getting old.

I think it would be plenty possible to have a tune beforehand but what if he just installed those parts Is that sooo unlikely? I mean I see what you mean but he came in for a tune, and it was NOT mentioned he had a tune prior. I just wanted clarification for the numbers posted. I like things to be clear and concise and the first post did not do that. Thanks.

 

Hell if we are getting into that, the title of the entire thread is misleading ... they are not really testing an JDM EVO 9 but a JDM EVO 9 turbo ....

 

How was I being an ignorant shmuck as you so politely put it ... you asked how the car benefited and I gave you a mathmatical breakdown???
Obviously you got offended by the fun I poked at you with my last comment. No need to get you panties in a twist ... I only gave you the after you made the same comment ... did I call you any names?