I am sure they do.. I got mine from Speed Element for $929 shipped w/ tax.

 

what is the difference if any between a regular evo 9 turbo and the tme 20g?

 

I just may be strongly inclined to disagree with you on that point about the two being equal.


The difference is a TME 20-G has a titanium aluminide turbine wheel and a larger compressor wheel.

 

I wanna see trap speeds, thats what I am going to base my purchase on

 

Who sells the TME 20-G?

 

still no results i got tired of waiting and went w/ a 50 trim hopefully its worth my while

 

I put down 358hp and 315ft/lbs with stock 03 turbo and housing. I keep wondering weather to go with a 20g 9 or if i want a 30r to 35r. Getting alky kit next week. Any suggestions?

 

speed element.

 

That's a 6-blade unit, which I recommend avoiding.

AFAIK, Buschur can still provide the 5-blade unit with FP 'TME' TiAl turbine.

 

Yes there is a difference in the 6 blade. I had one and it blew up. I only made 300whp on buschur dyno with pump gas. It made like 330 on 97 octane. Granted I had a few other minor issues.

I now have the 5 blade and it's awesome. I'm going to guess it will put down around 320hp on pump gas probably close to 350 on race. It spools faster, pulls hard all around and sounds totally different fromt he 6 blade. I'm VERY happy with this setup although it's not all about peak numbers... the hp/tq curve on this turbo is awesome.

 

I have over 10 customers using 6 blade 20g's and there are no problems, I wish i still had my evo because if I did i'd throw it on make 400+whp on a dynojet and post the sheets up. I have a close friend running the turbo with alky on 30 psi and i went for a ride in the car. It breaks lose just flooring it in 1st if the ride isnt completely smooth. The car is noticeably faster then it was with the stock turbo. I have about 3 more turbos in stock, if anyone wants one let me know!

 

For an earlier poster, the 6 blade 20G comes with the turbine clipped.

 

I had one until recently, and made 400whp (DJ). However, my problem with it wasn't peak power, it was the severe loss of midrange torque I suffered as compared to the TME I had previously. I made only a little more peak power (10whp) than I did with my 16G TME, but was down 50 ft/lbs with the 6-blade 20G at 4000rpm at the same boost pressure. These findings indicate the 6-blade 20G to suffer from a high PR problem that results in excessive exhaust backpressure. Coincidentally, my independently derived results correlate with the high PR pressure readings and results reported by Buschur and Forced Performance.

So far, each user who's upgraded from the 6-blade to the 5-blade Buschur/FP unit reports quicker spool and more power.

I didn't create these results, I'm just reporting them as the chips fall.

 

i have a question... you mentioned something once that led me to believe that the backpressure lost you torque because the cams were letting exhaust back in to contaminate the flow due to higher exhaust pressures.

would you think that fiddling with gears once again would produce a more favorable result?

 

Had I tightened the LSA a bit, that would have reduced reversion, but it still would not have solved the high PR problem. I may have gained a little bit more power, but I would have given up some spool time. As it was, I had already given up ~350rpm of spool time in comparison to the TME I had on previously, and wasn't hitting full boost until 4000rpm.

FWIW, I'm using the same LSA with a GT35R and making very good power.