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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FahKen Evo!
I think it is then the EMS has more PRECISE control over the injector. . .. The EMS is perfect therefore larger injectors are needed.
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The AEM EMS is configured for high impedance injectors. Your injectors are low impedance. This is a mismatch, like plugging a 4 ohm load into an amp channel that is engineered for 8 ohms. Maybe you can better understand it that way.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
No.

The AEM EMS is configured for high impedance injectors. Your injectors are low impedance. This is a mismatch, like plugging a 4 ohm load into an amp channel that is engineered for 8 ohms. Maybe you can better understand it that way.
Hmmm I guess that is it. I am just saying I have seen guys run larger turbo's on smaller injectors with using the stock ECU Vs. the AEM EMS.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TrinaBabe
Hey Ted, I was wondering can you confirm that injectors are normally rated at 80-90%? As you can see I have made a pretty extensive excel program to calculate a ton of stuff... I would love to know where i could get the info about specific injectors, I always assumed they were rated at the 43.5 psi static... stuck open.


It's one of those things that you know, but finding a resource that confirms it takes a bit of work. A quick Google turned this up from Accurate Injector Service:

"Most flow ratings, while measured at anywhere from an 80 to 100-percent duty cycle, often use the lower of the two numbers."

(From: http://www.accurateis.com/whatinjectorsdo.html )


I believe the manufacturers rate injectors conservatively because they intend for you to size the injector such that 100% planned capacity is actually 80% duty.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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ok good enough.

It seems people are having a tough time understand most of this stuff Thats why I made that calculator... so people can enter in thier own info and see what it comes up with. The problem is people dont really understand how the fuel system works anyways.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fimotorsports
sure you can, but depends on how much power you want out of the car. I have a set of 1000 cc injectors fs if your interested.
pm me how much you want for them...

i currently have 750's but i plan to run a little upwards of 30psi in the future.


so i need to upgrade
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ev0ikon
I have to think of the PUMP and the INJECTORS as two DIFFERENT systems, separate by the regulator, even though they are in the same fuel "system".
Think of the injectors as leaks in the fuel rail. The higher the boost, the bigger the leaks, and a *much* greater the volume the pump must flow to keep *increasing* the pressure in the rail at the same rate as the boost rises.

The point of increasing pressure in the rail is because the pressure difference in the rail must *always* be around 43psi greater than the manifold pressure to keep the injectors flowing to spec. The rail side of the injector is always kept around 43 psi greater than the discharge side. So when the boost goes up, the rail pressure has to keep pace psi for psi.

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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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what we learned from this thread:

again, we learn TED B. is the shizzle
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
No.

The AEM EMS is configured for high impedance injectors. Your injectors are low impedance. This is a mismatch, like plugging a 4 ohm load into an amp channel that is engineered for 8 ohms. Maybe you can better understand it that way.
Well then I get half the output b/c I just halved my impediance Just kidding about that though, thanks for the info. Still waiting to try your cam gear settings
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fimotorsports
sure you can, but depends on how much power you want out of the car. I have a set of 1000 cc injectors fs if your interested.
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How much? Send me a PM if you want?
Bump on my question, plus your PM box is full.
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