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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Exceler8 are you talking about a real 20g or a 16g conversion. This guy is obviously looking to make some pretty big power considering he is going to be building the motor, and is willing to drop 3500 on a turbo setup, so to me, it just seems logical that he would get a turbo that would support close to 500 or so whp on race gas, and low to mid 400s on pump, which is pretty much what the 30Rs seem to produce.

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Exceler8 are you talking about a real 20g or a 16g conversion. This guy is obviously looking to make some pretty big power considering he is going to be building the motor, and is willing to drop 3500 on a turbo setup, so to me, it just seems logical that he would get a turbo that would support close to 500 or so whp on race gas, and low to mid 400s on pump, which is pretty much what the 30Rs seem to produce.

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Who cares about HP numbers? The track is where it is at, in a strait line or through the twisties.
Iam talking about the buschur 20g( Ihave not driven in a real20g 2.3stroker yet).
Have you driven in a 20g 2.3 stroker? I have a stroker myself. I am going at some point be using a 3076r.

Also there are many turbos out there that can get him 500whp on race gas. Where does he want the power band? Remember a stroker will not rev as high as a built 2.0. So why have a shorter powerband with say a 35r
These are just my opinions. To each his own.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:11 PM
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Uhhhh i think anybody who is purchasing a turbo kit cares about hp numbers. I have not driven a 20g 2.3 stroker, but I can imagine its a very fun ride, however the amount of top end power you give up using a buschur 20g, I think is far too much to outweigh the benefit of the low end tq. Frankly I could care less if I make 350ft/lbs of tq at 3500 rpms, because I will never be there, on a race track I find I spend the bulk of my time between 4000rpms and redline, which makes a 3076 pretty much the IDEAL choice for a stroker track setup imho. Yeah, a stroker will not rev as high as a built 2.0 but I guarantee you any REAL road racer will not be revving there engine that high, yes you give up the ability to rev close to 10k with a built 2.0 but with a stroker and a 3076 I would imagine you would have full spool at about 3500rpms(22psi) and the ability to rev it to 8500 if you build the head(springs and retainers).

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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I am running BR stroker with a Precision pt67 390 on pump and 540 on c16 on 20 and 30 pounds boost>> MY 2 cents
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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What kind of dyno?

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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35r is the sh it
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
I would call up works, ask what they are running on there time attack car . . .
Actually, I think it's an ATP GT35R kit.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Uhhhh i think anybody who is purchasing a turbo kit cares about hp numbers. I have not driven a 20g 2.3 stroker, but I can imagine its a very fun ride, however the amount of top end power you give up using a buschur 20g, I think is far too much to outweigh the benefit of the low end tq. Frankly I could care less if I make 350ft/lbs of tq at 3500 rpms, because I will never be there, on a race track I find I spend the bulk of my time between 4000rpms and redline, which makes a 3076 pretty much the IDEAL choice for a stroker track setup imho. Yeah, a stroker will not rev as high as a built 2.0 but I guarantee you any REAL road racer will not be revving there engine that high, yes you give up the ability to rev close to 10k with a built 2.0 but with a stroker and a 3076 I would imagine you would have full spool at about 3500rpms(22psi) and the ability to rev it to 8500 if you build the head(springs and retainers).

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Precisely my point on why I suggested a 3076r.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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I suggested it too, just you posted talking about the results/experience you had with a 20g in your last two posts in this thread, and I said it wasn't a good idea.....

Ted B, good to know, I am sure a 35R would work, just for a non full out race car, it might be a little much.

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Any fast track evo is not running a 35R or larger, so whoever recoomended the 37R for road racing lay the crack pipe down. I will be running a 3076 and a stroker eventually, and it will be tracked heavily, I am pretty sure this is what AMS ran at one lap, and that was good enough for 7th overall. I would call up works, ask what they are running on there time attack car, do some digging for what people are running on their road course dedicated cars.

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We ran a GT35R and 2.3 stroker motor at one lap last year

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Ah, JonK told me it was a smaller turbo. What are you going to run in the new time attack car?

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scorke
Ted B, good to know, I am sure a 35R would work, just for a non full out race car, it might be a little much.
I'd definitely agree, especially with a 2.0L. A GT30R (or variant thereof) is almost certainly a better, more versatile choice for a short to medium course.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Agreed. IMHO from what I have gathered/learned through my own personal experience, if you want the quickest (read:reliable/streetable performance) from a 2.0l, a modified 16g of some sort is probably best, if you are adding 300ccs like lots of people on here are recently, a 30R variant is the turbo of choice, and you can tune it to your own liking via A/R choices and such...

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by blkAMSevo8
sorry, dont have the stroker, wanted to stick with the drag racing set up, but around alot of people that do, and i would say the 2.3 with a 35r is a very good combo, i see full boost by 3,800 rpm and running 33psi on my 2.0 so if i were you, i would go with the 37r with the 2.3L, IMO
you see 33psi on a 2.0 at 3800rpms? whatta load of crap!
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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as for what i would suggest, a 3076 with large hotside.
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