i just read the sticky about road racing hte evo and the problems that poeple run into with heat - i was wondering if it is safe to take a stock EVO to the track for a track day( ie beaver run) or shoudl i be worried about the heat as well

i was thinking about bringing the car to turbotrix in NJ to get additional power exhaust refalsh etc would they be able to answer all my questions about this type of a setup im nto to intersted in 1/4 mile i want to be able to have fun doing track days but stil lhave a car that can be driven whenever with around 350 awhp

 

You can run stock - no problem.

Turbotrix should be able to help you with a good setup that is safe for road racing, but there's no reason you can't come on here, read, and ask questions to make sure you're in good shape. We have an entire Motorsports forum where we talk about road racing and autocrossing - join us there.

One piece of advice is that whatever you end up with as far as mods and tuning, always toss in some unleaded race gas at the track to add a nice safety margin over your daily driven tune, since you'll be boosting hard for 20-25mins.

 

i just sold my 2 r6s(600s) which i used for a track bike got an r1(street) and am problaby gonna sell that to put the $ into an EVO but i want to make sure i can track it and have fun with little headaches - i have been looking through the forum for a while now but haven t found a clear setup that i should be looking to upgrade to

do you guys trailer your car there or drive it up?

 

Not that I would recommend it, (going in the summer), but I went to the Fast Lane driving school at Willow Springs last July and it had to be 110 degrees out. Even though my car was stock, I added a couple of gallons of unleaded race gas before the class and the car ran great considering.

 

I drive to and from the drag strip, autocross, and road course every time. This is my daily driver, not a dedicated race car. However, I have considered using my SUV to tow the Evo to road courses that are a few hours away, since there is always the potential for breaking something. Generally, though, unless your car becomes a total race car, you can just drive there. I still have stock suspension, so I just take some tools, take a set of race tires/rims, and all the stuff I need in the trunk and back seat. At the track, I do my preparation, switch rims, then race my *** off. Afterwards, I do the opposite and drive home. It's an awesome thing.

You don't really need a specific setup just to road race. Do you plan to compete? If so, which organization: NASA or SCCA? Will you do time trials or actual wheel-to-wheel racing? These questions will all determine the setup you should use, and consequently, the setup I will suggest. Personally, I just use the stock turbo because of its awesome spool time and great low-end/mid-range torque, then all the mods in my sig. Pretty simple - not even a suspension mod yet, but I do quite well.

 

my main purpose is to be able to drive the car around town weekend etc along with doing track days...i no driver skill is huge but i would like to have enoough power etc to be able to keep up with a z06

i have been hearing a lot about alky/meth injection what exactly is that?(i did a search but didnt find a clear answer)

 

what type of setup are you running and what did it cost warrtalon?

 

Ok, dairyman, here's how you get to where I am, but first of all I need you to fill out your profile so it says where you live and what car you drive. There is a big difference between Evo VIIIs and IXs, but here is my VIII path:

Buschur/Warrtalon package to start, which includes...
- Buschur TBE
- Forge UNOS MBC + gauge + pod
- Forge RS BOV
- Walbro Fuel Pump
- Dynoflash tune

After that, I added:
- Buschur ported/coated stock manifold
- Buschur ported/coated turbine housing
- Buschur coated stainless steel turbular o2 housing

Then, I added:
- GSC cams 272i/264e for great mid-range torque on the road course
- SMC progressive alcohol injection kit
- Buschur air filter
- Custom Dynoflash

All of this allows me to have an 11-sec-capable drag car that can also rip it up while autocrossing and on the road course. I have almost no turbo lag with instantaneous spool to 26psi, which is where I'm tuned on a daily basis with 93oct+alky.

I have no suspension mods, but I do have a set of Kumho Ecsta V710s that I put onto my MR BBS rims for racing. This allows me to do pretty well. As for Z06s, I passed several at my track event 2 weeks ago, and put down a faster lap than all 6 of them in attendance, several of which were in race groups. One of them came up to me after a session and congratulated me on pulling away from his Z06 on a straightaway. That definitely felt good. Of course, pound for pound, most Z06s will be faster, but in this case, I was carrying more speed through the final turn and then able to get to top speed sooner, so it worked out nicely.

 

yes, you'll be fine, just don't go out and try to be the hero.

Stock fluid should always be changed, and chances are good that you'll overheat the stock tires and fade the brakes.

 

I've never had overheating problems, even in August. Power-wise my car is stock except for a Buschur TBE. BeaveRun is a lot of fun, but not too demanding. It only has one serious braking zone, T1, T10 is just a hard, short jab. If you're doing one of their FATT days you'll be fine stock, sessions are about 20min. Most of the instructors are good, but they don't always class people well and there's often someone in your run group who really doesn't belong out there. Oh, they have GT100 in a live pump (takes credit cards!) if you want to goose your octane for a safety margin.

Dave

 

While blunt, this is great advice. Too many times i've seen new track drivers drive over their heads and got into problems.

A friend of mine who I've spent plenty of track time with is a former Rally driver from Bulgaria. When i first got my Evo, I was all about putting more power in my car for its first track day and his comments to me were "Learn to drive the car first. More power will only get you into trouble." I thought about it and agreed with what he said.

 

Do the standard track prep (brake system flush with better fluid, check tire pressure, check all fluid levels, fill up with unleaded racegas) and you should be fine. A couple of things you may want to consider before even thinking about any kind of power upgrades:
- shifter bushings along with a SS clutch line
- SS brake lines
- Better brake pads or the brake air guides or brake air ducting or all 3
- Get an alignment! You can get close to -2 degrees of front camber on the stock suspension, I've dialed it -1.5 in the rear for now on mine to go with -1.9 in the front, 0 toe all around

Enjoy!

l8r)

 

it's completely true. My evo, while modded fairly heavily, far exceeds my ability to drive it, and unless It's refreshed into my mind, I will over-drive the car.

I thought i was doing it, but after watching my recent video from homestead-miami, it's there in black and white.

Everyone wants to go out and "hang" with the fast cars. As a noob, theres no point in even trying. Run your line, and hit your marks. Do it lap, after lap, after lap. Consistancy brings speed. IE: pulling 1.5 g's on my ra-1's into the hairpin at sebring is great and fun, but it simply cannot be maintained lap after lap.

 

i'll be the first to say the mitsu guides don't really cool anything. If i'm boiling the fluid THAT easily with the guides, man, i can't imagine without them, i soon will have to resort to a better method.