Mitsubishi OEM turbo specifications (including flow rates)
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Would there be much difference between the two?... Yup there's a significant difference in flow rate & performance between the E5 and E9 turbos.
Link--> The "Best" Turbo Upgrade for Evo 4G63 daily driver.
I have stock EVO4 turbo... Is your 4G63 from an Evo 4 or is it only the turbo?
If your engine, ECU and harness are all "Evo 4" then it's not a simple upgrade.
An E4 has smaller injectors, different ECU, harness & "pin-outs" etc. etc.
All these would need to be changed to suit the model of turbo you select.
Link--> The "Best" Turbo Upgrade for Evo 4G63 daily driver.
I have stock EVO4 turbo... Is your 4G63 from an Evo 4 or is it only the turbo?
If your engine, ECU and harness are all "Evo 4" then it's not a simple upgrade.
An E4 has smaller injectors, different ECU, harness & "pin-outs" etc. etc.
All these would need to be changed to suit the model of turbo you select.
Last edited by nix; Jan 30, 2013 at 07:29 PM.
Would there be much difference between the two?... Yup there's a significant difference in flow rate & performance between the E5 and E9 turbos.
Link--> The "Best" Turbo Upgrade for Evo 4G63 daily driver.
I have stock EVO4 turbo... Is your 4G63 from an Evo 4 or is it only the turbo?
If your engine, ECU and harness are all "Evo 4" then it's not a simple upgrade.
An E4 has smaller injectors, different ECU, harness & "pin-outs" etc. etc.
All these would need to be changed to suit the model of turbo you select.
Link--> The "Best" Turbo Upgrade for Evo 4G63 daily driver.
I have stock EVO4 turbo... Is your 4G63 from an Evo 4 or is it only the turbo?
If your engine, ECU and harness are all "Evo 4" then it's not a simple upgrade.
An E4 has smaller injectors, different ECU, harness & "pin-outs" etc. etc.
All these would need to be changed to suit the model of turbo you select.
The 9 costs more than the 5, so I'm wondering if the upgrade from 4to5 vs 4to9 is much different.
Last edited by meka; Jan 30, 2013 at 09:21 PM.
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<-- check the sig 96 evo4. it's all evo4. I could swap the turbo for an evo5 turbo or an evo9 turbo. Physically they both have a lighter turbine and wider inlet/outlet I believe. I'm only talking about the turbo itself not the comparison of the cars.
The 9 costs more than the 5, so I'm wondering if the upgrade from 4to5 vs 4to9 is much different.
The 9 costs more than the 5, so I'm wondering if the upgrade from 4to5 vs 4to9 is much different.
Bigger turbo = More air-flow = "Lean" A/F mixture = Bigger injectors needed...
IIRC E5-E9 injectors can't fit the E4 ECU/harness combo, so an E5-E9 ECU swap would be needed... The E4 ECU has different harness "pin-outs", so an E5-E9 harness (to suit the appropriate model of turbo & injectors) would be req'd also... or an aftermarket (Power FC?) ECU could be used instead.
My $0.02¢
Last edited by nix; Sep 12, 2013 at 10:39 AM.
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Max output for evo 6 gsr turbo?
Hi my name is matt im from australia and i have a 1999 evo 6 gsr. My current setup is stock turbo, stock injectors, stock cams, stock manifold, stock piping (from throttle body to turbo outlet.
Upgrades:
255 walbro fuel pump
New lifters
3" intake pipe into compressor side.
3" inside diametre turbo back exhaust.
Grimspeed 3 port boost solenoid
Full retune.
Results: 285 awhp @ 405Nm. (24psi tapering to 21psi)
Reason i am asking this is it seems like from the upgrades i have done i should at least be hitting 300hp+ but i am not. I believe that a full intake pipe kit with the upgraded cast turbo outlet will eliminate any other restriction since to my research the standard turbo i have (td05hr 16g 10.5t) has a max output of between 340-360hp @22 psi). Let me know your thoughts
Upgrades:
255 walbro fuel pump
New lifters
3" intake pipe into compressor side.
3" inside diametre turbo back exhaust.
Grimspeed 3 port boost solenoid
Full retune.
Results: 285 awhp @ 405Nm. (24psi tapering to 21psi)
Reason i am asking this is it seems like from the upgrades i have done i should at least be hitting 300hp+ but i am not. I believe that a full intake pipe kit with the upgraded cast turbo outlet will eliminate any other restriction since to my research the standard turbo i have (td05hr 16g 10.5t) has a max output of between 340-360hp @22 psi). Let me know your thoughts
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I'm no mechanic or 'pro' tuner but here goes... OEM parts are all 16 years old and subject to wear.
Unless you MUST stay OEM, IMHO I would change worn parts with mild upgrades if I had to spend significant $$$ to repair anything.
1999 Evo 6 GSR... Setup is stock turbo, ~ injectors, ~ cams, ~ manifold, ~ piping (from throttle body to turbo outlet)...
1) stock turbo... Check for wear/play on shaft... or damage to impeller/compressor blades.
If worn, upgrade to 'FP Green' if your budget allows.
turbo i have (td05hr 16g 10.5t) has a max output of between 340-360hp @22 psi)... IMHO this may only be relevant after a short-block rebuild.
Unlikely to get that output with a 16 year old engine. (btw ALWAYS use torque plate when you rebuild.)
2) Timing belt/Valve timing... Check cam & belt alignment to make sure that valve timing is correct.
3) stock piping... Have you checked/changed the stock fabric hoses?
They are 16 years old now and will suffer from "ballooning" under boost.
That may be enough to cause changes to your A/R... and torque & power output.
4) stock injectors... Ship injectors to fuel injection company for cleaning.
UPGRADES:
If upgrading turbo or cams, upgrade to larger injectors based on turbo supplier's recommendations.
5) stock cams... Upgrade to OEM Evo 8 cams... or slightly better aftermarket cams.
My
Unless you MUST stay OEM, IMHO I would change worn parts with mild upgrades if I had to spend significant $$$ to repair anything.
1999 Evo 6 GSR... Setup is stock turbo, ~ injectors, ~ cams, ~ manifold, ~ piping (from throttle body to turbo outlet)...
1) stock turbo... Check for wear/play on shaft... or damage to impeller/compressor blades.
If worn, upgrade to 'FP Green' if your budget allows.
turbo i have (td05hr 16g 10.5t) has a max output of between 340-360hp @22 psi)... IMHO this may only be relevant after a short-block rebuild.
Unlikely to get that output with a 16 year old engine. (btw ALWAYS use torque plate when you rebuild.)
2) Timing belt/Valve timing... Check cam & belt alignment to make sure that valve timing is correct.
3) stock piping... Have you checked/changed the stock fabric hoses?
They are 16 years old now and will suffer from "ballooning" under boost.
That may be enough to cause changes to your A/R... and torque & power output.
4) stock injectors... Ship injectors to fuel injection company for cleaning.
UPGRADES:
If upgrading turbo or cams, upgrade to larger injectors based on turbo supplier's recommendations.
5) stock cams... Upgrade to OEM Evo 8 cams... or slightly better aftermarket cams.
My
Last edited by nix; Jan 18, 2015 at 07:33 PM.
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Cheers for that
I have checked for play in the turbo
there is none
I have decided to go with GSC S2 274/274 cams. New springs, retainers, valves. Then retune.
I have ordered a full set of hard pipes from throttle body to turbo outlet.
Aparently i need new spark plug leads i havnt noticed any misfires yet though...
I have checked for play in the turbo
there is none
I have decided to go with GSC S2 274/274 cams. New springs, retainers, valves. Then retune.
I have ordered a full set of hard pipes from throttle body to turbo outlet.
Aparently i need new spark plug leads i havnt noticed any misfires yet though...
Last edited by 99evoVI; Jan 24, 2015 at 03:40 AM.
