Exedy triple carbon= BAD
Originally Posted by KOEvo
Even if they don't offer a warranty you dam well better make them cover it. Tell them your stock factory OEM clutch held up better then their premier top of the line clutch.
I have to agree with Jack on this one. Putting a carbon disk in a clutch with metalic friction surfaces isn't the best idea. You can design these systems two ways (and the same principal applies to brakes). Design it so the disks wear, or the flywheels wear. People think they get a deal when they go to the autoparts store and buy "lifetime" brake pads. Little do they know they'll be replacing rotors that much more often. Your carbon disks are probably fine, the flywheel/floater plates friction surfaces on the other hand.... Carbon on Carbon or Metallic on a metallic/organic hybrid disk are the only ways to go.
- Steve
- Steve
Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
How could this be?
I just recieved word from the shop my car is at. I thought my transfer case was taking a dump on me but they have taken everything out and confirmed my Exedy triple carbon is toast. WTF!
It has only been in the car for less than 10K miles and I have only been to the track 3 times and only launched it less than 30 times.
I only had 360whp when it was originally installed and recently in the past few months I upgraded parts and redynoed 430whp.
There is no reason a $3,000 clutch should be bad with less than 30 launches on it and less than 10K miles.
I only went to the track 3 times, thats all, only 3 times!
1st track event I launched it 11 times.
2nd track event I launched it 3 times.
3rd track event I launched it 9 times.
I honestly only launched it 4 times on the street and that was with my AEM tuner in the car setting up some parameters.
Anybody else had this issue?
I just recieved word from the shop my car is at. I thought my transfer case was taking a dump on me but they have taken everything out and confirmed my Exedy triple carbon is toast. WTF!
It has only been in the car for less than 10K miles and I have only been to the track 3 times and only launched it less than 30 times.
I only had 360whp when it was originally installed and recently in the past few months I upgraded parts and redynoed 430whp.
There is no reason a $3,000 clutch should be bad with less than 30 launches on it and less than 10K miles.
I only went to the track 3 times, thats all, only 3 times!
1st track event I launched it 11 times.
2nd track event I launched it 3 times.
3rd track event I launched it 9 times.
I honestly only launched it 4 times on the street and that was with my AEM tuner in the car setting up some parameters.
Anybody else had this issue?
When you have a performance clutch in a AWD car the lifespan is directly related to your driving style
In most cases when you leave the line hard you are slipping and waering the clutch and not the rear tires as in most RWD cars
In AWD cars the clutch wears faster when you race or launch
I could kill any clutch in 5 minutes with abuse
I am not saying that YOU abused your clutch - however - my suggestion is that anyone who races his / her evo should expect a greatly reduced lifespan on any clutch
In my own car the Exedy triple holds 940 whp and takes serious abuse
Its the best clutch I have driven
Last edited by DynoFlash; May 5, 2006 at 12:53 PM.
i had a similar nightmare with my RPS carbon carbon unit. it cost $2700 and at the last time attack, it straight up blew up. One of the floaters that held the carbon pucks straight broke off releasing a carbon puck, causing it to disintegrate insde my tranny. Thank god my bell housing was ok. My car was never drag raced on that clutch, just a couple road races. I have to send mine out to RPS, I am pretty sure they will take car of me as this thing cost a ton of money and it should be able to withstand 400 whp on a road race aplication. Good luck with ur triple plate.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
When you have a performance clutch in a AWD car the lifespan is directly related to your driving style
In most cases when you leave the line hard you are slipping and waering the clutch and not the rear tires as in most RWD cars
In AWD cars the clutch wears faster when you race or launch
I could kill any clutch in 5 minutes with abuse
I am not saying that YOU abused your clutch - however - my suggestion is that anyone who races his / her evo should expect a greatly reduced lifespan on any clutch
In my own car the Exedy triple holds 940 whp and takes serious abuse
Its the best clutch I have driven
In most cases when you leave the line hard you are slipping and waering the clutch and not the rear tires as in most RWD cars
In AWD cars the clutch wears faster when you race or launch
I could kill any clutch in 5 minutes with abuse
I am not saying that YOU abused your clutch - however - my suggestion is that anyone who races his / her evo should expect a greatly reduced lifespan on any clutch
In my own car the Exedy triple holds 940 whp and takes serious abuse
Its the best clutch I have driven
I would have never bought a $3,000 clutch if I thought it would only last for 3 track events and less than 10,000 miles. Thats just BS!
I'm 31 yrs old and have been driving "modified" cars w/manuals my whole life and none of them have had an issue this soon.
Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
Anybody else have a similar issue with their Exedy?
Can the triple carbon be rebuilt and if so for about how much $?
Can the triple carbon be rebuilt and if so for about how much $?
Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
Anybody else have a similar issue with their Exedy?
Can the triple carbon be rebuilt and if so for about how much $?
Can the triple carbon be rebuilt and if so for about how much $?
the cost to rebuild is $700 per plate. i thought this was pretty ridiculous!
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I had ATS twin Carbon and RPS twin Carbon -worn out very quickly!-The same situation
You know....carbon clutches are not for the streets.ONLY DRAG RACING with proper worm up
Anyway just have got EXEDY TRIPPLE CERAMIC HD. Will let you know(broke it in 200miles.i think enouth)
You know....carbon clutches are not for the streets.ONLY DRAG RACING with proper worm up
Anyway just have got EXEDY TRIPPLE CERAMIC HD. Will let you know(broke it in 200miles.i think enouth)
Tilton carbon/carbon is the only clutch worth big bucks from what I have seen. Mine tested at 900ft/lbs cold. Holds more when hot. After the first nine months use the discs measured ..004-.005 wear. The lifespan is about .225. Carbon on metal is just not the way to go. The carbon can get extremely hot. The heat has no place to go but into the steel floaters which warp. Once the floaters warp the discs wear out quickly from not disengaging properly.
As far as your exedy goes, I am with Al on this one. people just don't get how abusive the AWD platform can be on a clutch. Same reason some can muster 30,000 miles and repeted 11 sec quarters on the stock clutch. While others burn it up first time at the track trying to turn a low 13. While you think you are driving it properly one second too much slip can be the difference between 1100 degrees and 1600 degrees surface temp.
As far as your exedy goes, I am with Al on this one. people just don't get how abusive the AWD platform can be on a clutch. Same reason some can muster 30,000 miles and repeted 11 sec quarters on the stock clutch. While others burn it up first time at the track trying to turn a low 13. While you think you are driving it properly one second too much slip can be the difference between 1100 degrees and 1600 degrees surface temp.
We should hear from Exedy sometime this week. I will keep you guys updated.
I am having "alot" done to my car right now, but I was trying to keep the new stuff secret.
I am having "alot" done to my car right now, but I was trying to keep the new stuff secret.
Originally Posted by EVOONYOASS
I just recieved word through an email that Exedy WON'T cover my clutch failure. 
They said it looked like the clutch was "slipped" too much and the carbon disc were burned up. 3 track events, gimmie a ****en break! I didn't over slip anything.
Tomorrow I will be calling them myself to give them a piece of my mind. This is total BULLSHYT!
They said it looked like the clutch was "slipped" too much and the carbon disc were burned up. 3 track events, gimmie a ****en break! I didn't over slip anything.
Tomorrow I will be calling them myself to give them a piece of my mind. This is total BULLSHYT!
welcome to the Club, they wont cover mine either. to make things worse, i bought mine used w/ 2k miles on it from a vendor on this forum and then had it installed and drove it 30miles then i had engine problems and while fixing it, found out that the clutch was somehow toasted! so i wasted $2k for nothing. sucks!