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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrod@Buschur
How long ago was this kit purchased? Was it purchased new from us?

We have been using our new design mini battery kit for a little while now without any problems. It does work with the stock airbox. Our old style mini battery kit does not. If this was purchased brand new from us and is still in NEW condition you can return the kit for a full refund if you are not happy. Just call before you return it so I can issue you an RA#.

Is this the kit that you have?


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I bought the kit last week, and yes it's the one pictured. Since I ground some material off the side in order to get a better fit I doubt if you will take it back. I can get it to work (I think) by doing the following:

1) Add clearance for the wiring harness on the firewall side of the tray. This should allow me to shove it away from the airbox.

2) Obround the mounting holes to allow for the above movement.

3) remove all the sharp edges.

Auto sheetmetal tolerances are typically +/- 1/8 inch, so it may be my car at one extreme. I expected the kit to drop in with no modification, was dissapointed when it didn't.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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GSC > all...



http://www.stikiller.com/product.php...age=1&featured
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure that the latest iteration of the BR mini battery is supposed to fit with the stock airbox, in fact i just checked the website, it is supposed to fit.

Originally Posted by WillEatUrSTi
I think vwjeff is right I thought it said on Buschur's website that the mini battery does not fit with the stock air box but perhaps with enough voices he would look into making one that does.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Do people read the whole thread anymore?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...4&postcount=34

I posted this in this thread this morning, linking to where Buschur said his NEW VERSION works with the stock intake and the old version didn't.

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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ez76
I would say it is the responsibility of the part manufacturer to meet the customer at least halfway, in detailing which of their own parts are going to be incompatible with an otherwise stock vehicle.

Here is an archive of your Evo intake/exhaust parts page from June 2004, when you were still selling the 1gen battery kit.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406030....cgi?18X376545

Notice there is no mention of stock air box incompatibility.

Here is an archive of the same page from March 2005, for the same old-style kit.

http://web.archive.org/web/200503090....cgi?18X376545

Notice there is no mention of stock air box incompatibility (although there is an upsell for the UICP!)

I purchased this kit in 2004 new from Buschur and discovered it was not compatible with my car because I was not running an aftermarket intake like Buschur's. When I called to discuss the issue I was offered their intake to buy. I ended up selling the kit to a fellow in Socal who was running an open intake. Fast forward 9 months from my purchase and I guess new buyers were still expected to "research" that the part they were buying required other Buschur parts first.
It was always mentioned when ordering on the phone that this was not compatible with the stock airbox. If the order was placed online and there were no notes the customer would be called. Why it was not on the site at the time I do not know but that is the past. We use an open element filter as part of our stage 1 and the mini battery is part of stage 2 so the stock airbox would already have been removed. I do understand that not everyone goes through our stages but we used to ask what intake the customer was using before we finished the sale.

We must have a different definition of "upselling" as this is all the description says about "upselling to an upper IC pipe"..... "This replacement mini-battery and installation kit will ease transmission serviceability and enable you to run the new BR Upper Intercooler Upgrade Pipe Kit available in the very near future."

Sounds to me like this would just allow you to run the upper pipe in the future.

About your order...... I also can not say for sure why you were offered to purchase an intake instead of a refund if what you bought would not work. Thats not how we serve our customers. Even though it is way past and probably doesnt mean anything I do apologize about the problem and service you recieved.

Jarrod
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fsugatorbait
You honestly feel that kit is more asthetically pleasing than the Nisei kit?? I mean, you're entitled to your own opinion, but that kit looks like a hack job in comparison to me...
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Refer to post #36 made by Jarrod for a picture of our current battery tray. Ignore post #45 made by Duroevo as the part is that battery kit is no longer made. It did work well and I'd venture to say we have sold about 500 of them over the last 3 years. It served it's purpose and we haven't had any failure from them. Remember it was only meant to hold a battery, make some room and free up some space.

The new tray, in post #36, I just built/designed gave us a place to mount our new CDI box to for the igntion AND allows the stock air box to be used.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperHatch
You honestly feel that kit is more asthetically pleasing than the Nisei kit?? I mean, you're entitled to your own opinion, but that kit looks like a hack job in comparison to me...

Considering looks/price/function I would take the GSC tray. You cant add other components to the Nisei like you can with the GSC/Buschur version.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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Richard, sorry you have having problems. Not sure why though. The plate is cut by a laser and should be fairly smooth. The edges are not radiused or ground smooth but I haven't noticed anything that looks like it is going to cut into wiring. It will clear the stock air box. The holes should also line up and that is completely baffling to me that they don't on your car.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fsugatorbait
Considering looks/price/function I would take the GSC tray. You cant add other components to the Nisei like you can with the GSC/Buschur version.
You can't? Wow....

What did people do with catch cans before these mini battery kits were realeased? They found room, drilled holes, and mounted the cans. That big metal pillar that the battery tiedown connects to on the Nisei kit? You can mount a catch can to that just like you can in any other kit.....

Just because they don't show a picture on their site doesn't mean it can't be done, it just takes some creativity....
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperHatch
You can't? Wow....

What did people do with catch cans before these mini battery kits were realeased? They found room, drilled holes, and mounted the cans. That big metal pillar that the battery tiedown connects to on the Nisei kit? You can mount a catch can to that just like you can in any other kit.....

Just because they don't show a picture on their site doesn't mean it can't be done, it just takes some creativity....

Of course they may be able to be added later, but Buschur and GSC designed theirs to work with other components. You apparently like the Nisei kit and I like the GSC kit. Move along.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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Just move the damn thing to the trunk. The 20lbs you save is not worth the trouble of the POS battery. If you have an all out drag car(roll cages, no interior, etc) i can see paying for the stupid thing. But to 99.9% of you, move the mfer to the trunk.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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used the same kit on my 03(no problems at all). the car sat one winter in sub freezing weather for 10 days and started up like it was 90 deg. outside. i have it on my IX, part of the BR350 package and is also perfect,dont see any sharp edges anywhere.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Moving it to the trunk is not a good option. First off for most organized racing if you do that you need to install a remote shut off switch that can be accessed and found easily by track personel. Not something I want to do to my EVO. Next there isn't a real good way to make a junction box in the front of the car for the factory hot side of the battery. Some of the hacked up crap I have seen to do that is a joke. Last by moving the battery to the trunk the car will be heavier than it was before you started with the 15' of heavy gauge positive wire you add and then you need to make sure you run some very good grounds once it is in the back.

Best way to do it is the smaller battery under the hood. The batteries are not POS.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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had the first gen on my 03, now have it on my 06 ix. I ran the stage II kit, but right now just have the filter and batt in my IX. I sometimes have to give the batt a charge if it sits for over a week or so, but no biggie. Fit is perfect and it does what its supposed to do!
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