If you have a SBR turbo kit, how did your LICP fit? I can't make this stupid thing fit with my undertray.......... and whats up with the large silicone 45? They couldnt make the whole pipe? wtf ?!?

 

You bought the SBR Kit - sorry to hear that dude.


I made the same mistake - try running over 1.6bar of boost and you'll hit a load of surge ... oh yeah, i know as i was the first person to ever run the SBR kit with forged internals.

My m8 was the second guy to - he also hit surge issues ( different car, different mapper). We both have now ditched the SBR racing kit and he has an AMS kit with no issues, and i have an RC Developments kit, again with no issues. ... SBR told me it was my car at fault at the time!

SBR told us nothing but lies - first sying they had a kit running at 650bhp, and one month later admitting they had no US cars running with forged internals - go figure.

 

Oh man,EVO stock block is ok for 650bhp,that equal to about 500whp(22.5% drivetain lost).

 

RichiW,
Was your SBR kit the same one that they and RRE use today with the cast iron exhaust manifold?:

 

Yes- the very same kit.

Just re-read the email, from Mark Seich it says 650awhp - looks like your not that far off it, i wonder if theyve changed something else in the kit?!


How long you been running 584 for? What dyno was that on?

 

Well, I'm running the AMS 35R with 2.3, not the SBR kit. I made the 584whp/527wtq a few months ago on a Dynojet 424X.

I'm interested in your claim that it surges because I thought surge was a function of the turbo and lots of folks have 3076s that don't complain about surging. Also, RRE is pushing these turbo kits here in SoCal for months but there has been little hard data published about their performance.

 

If you have the AMS turbo then i'm not surprised that you have made such good figures - me and my friend bought the SBR kits together. Neither car made the power. He now also has the AMS kit and the car performs flawlessly, unlike it did with the SBR Kit ... he cannot commend the AMS kit enough!

I went for a different kit again and my car works extremely well, though been an Evo 8 engine and not 9 like my friend not quite as good

Have you ever asked yourself why SBR only quote figures from their kit using the smaller turbo, at relatively low boost levels. If you sold a GT35R kit wouldn't you sell it quoting figures at high boost pressures where it will make the most power, and impress the most people?

The answers in the reading

 

So....... Uhh anyone have any information realated to me question????

 

Man I actually liked this kitbecause of the recirculating waste gate. Any other kits like this. I hate noisy wastegates

 

I dont have the engine tray fitted but do what i had to do with the rest of the kit - bodge it, bend it, modify it and hopefully, eventually, it will fit.


Good Luck. Sorry for the thread hijack.

 

I was talking to a guy last week who had an EVO9 MR and installed the SBR kit. He mentioned having A LOT of problems with the install and one of them was the LICP, so I dont think you are alone. He said in general, fitment was awful.

 

I am putting together a 35R SBR setup right now. Fitment issues are that with a 35R a lil nub on the block has to be grinded down if you run the compressor housing pointed down where it needs to be, other than that no fitment issues whatsoever.

I am having the LICP and endtanks and intercooler fabbed to my specs, so it will all fit like butter.

Hoping for just under 600 on C16 440ish on pump.

Scorke

 

i wasn't thrilled with the fitment of my SBR LICP either, i think it is mostly to due with the fact its a 1 piece unit & there are quite a few intercooler options out there. since im using an IC W a 3" inlet my setup wasnt exactly textbook either. i ended up ditching the supplied Silicone couplers & using a 3" to 2.5 reducing silicone elbow to attach to the intercooler & a 2.5" to 2" 45-degree reducer on the turbo side

i think in the future i will replace it with a 2-piece style LICP such as the AMS or a similar 2-piece style

i had some fitment issues with my SBR kit as well, but kinda expected it from what i had heard, nothing big just some of the bolts supplied had heads that were too large & other minor issues that were solved with a trip to the local hardware store. didnt bother me, but someone with high expectations of just bolting the kit on easily or little knowledge about wrenching may be uncomfortable with this.


aside from that, im running the kit with a 3076, & i've had no surge issues, she's still only on a 91 octane road tune so im not pushing more than 19-20 psi & the tune is rather conservative.

so far she runs like a scalded dog, spools fast, & runs great! im very happy W the SBR/RRE - HAFE manifold & o2 housing setup & would reccomend it to others. just be prepared to do some work on your own if you go with SBR & do the install yourself
...unless they have changed policy RRE usually only sells the HAFE setup installed so they can guarantee fitment without issues

 

What sort of power are you making?

Scorke

 

The lower IC fit is very dependant on cocking the turbo just right. Get it right and you can make it all work. Get it just slightly wrong and it will never go together.

I have this kit with a 35R and so far am very happy with it. I am running 26 psi on E85 and have no surging issues. I need to finishing mapping it and run 28-29 and see what it really does.