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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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On a stock IX turbo you will be probably maxed out around 410-420 whp. Depending if you plan on upgrading your turbo you may have to go with whoever the kits from intake. Unless you go with a HKS 2835 or HKS 3037. The only problems with the HKS exhaust manifold are prone to cracking. that is the only reason i am staying away from one of there kits. I plan on making 430+whp here is my list of mods of how i plan getting there.

HKS RS intake
HKS DLI 2
HKS EVC 5
HKS FMIC
Nisei Intercooler pipes
Espelir Downpipe
Ultimate Racing Testpipe
HKS Hi power exhaust
APR head studs
20-g-9-5 or 6 blade turbo
SMC Meth kit

depending how the cosworth cams work out i would add them to my list.

i will follow almost the same path, but if i upgrade the turbo probably i will use a ported ATP kit... i really liked the results posted in another thread...
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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koolguy, hate to break it to you, but hks is overpriced - your just paying for the name. But hey, its your cash, feel free to waste it.

And MBC first, then a flash. The UNOS is great and so is Hallman.

And please for the love of puppies do not put on the HKS SSQV VTA.



Standalone for an intake? Your joking right - a flash will cover all that for way less $.

This is an old link, but here you go:

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
yea thx for the advice but i can afford it, turst me and also im still not sure which mbc to get but watever my choice is it will be hallman or forge unos. i dont really like blowoff valves so im staying away from those
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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Ok, Ill restate this in the manner of 80s drug commercials...

This is your engine:


This is your filter:


This is your filter with a HKS intake:


This is your motor after HKS intake:


Any questions?

This in your filter after K&N:


Better still Apexi filter:
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Does the Apexi intake system work on the EVO IX's?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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As long as the MAFs are the same, then MAF adapter should work.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by koolguy660
. . . i do like hks so i just might end up getting a hks intake
Unnecessary.

The stock intake isn't restrictive (folks have made more than 500whp with it), and the HKS intake doesn't appear to make any more power when just slapped onto the car like you plan to do.

Skip the intake and treat the car to a retune (at least a mail-order reflash). There is far more power to be had from that.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Well, that's fine if you don't have the fuel pump installed, but then why mention it? No need to list mods that you haven't installed...
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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cant u just use an apexi filter on an hks intake after the filter is worn out?
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by koolguy660
cant u just use an apexi filter on an hks intake after the filter is worn out?
I think the filter sizes are different. 4" for the HKS and 3" for the apexi I believe.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:29 AM
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Dude ill be straight up with you...YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CARS. Sorry to break it to you but if you REALLY want to make 400-500whp WHY are you even thinking about an intake??? Its pretty stupid imo. If you really want to make that power just buy an mbc or ebc, tbe, intercooler piping, fmic (only if you wanna go past 400whp), cams, meth, and get a custom tune. Thats all you need to break 400. Now if you want to make up to 500whp...Buy a turbo kit. Voila thats all you need.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by koolguy660
cant u just use an apexi filter on an hks intake after the filter is worn out?
Why not just go with the Buschur Racing Mass Air Pipe Upgrade

https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...154dc0fbfb74a8

and the Apexi Power Intake Filter

http://www.coximports.com/APE-500-A021

Even going that route, it's still cheaper then HKS and you get quality parts along with a filter that actually filters.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SmikeEvo
koolguy, hate to break it to you, but hks is overpriced - your just paying for the name. But hey, its your cash, feel free to waste it.

And MBC first, then a flash. The UNOS is great and so is Hallman.

And please for the love of puppies do not put on the HKS SSQV VTA.



Standalone for an intake? Your joking right - a flash will cover all that for way less $.

This is an old link, but here you go:

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/
I guess you misread my post, I was "not" suggesting a standalone for him to be able to use the hks intake, but rather keeping the stock box until he's ready for more advance upgrades...ie standalone, exhaust etc...and I'm not joking 'cuz touching your stock airbox as a first upgrade doesn't make any sense, and like War said it's alot of wasted $.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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My 2 cents:

I have a stock airbox + K&N. On the dragstrip, I found that removing the filter from the stock airbox just before my pass always helped by about 0.1s/1mph. Yesterday, I checked this on the dyno, and consistently got +5 whp, + 10wtq. The TQ peak came about 300 rpms sooner with no filter element. These results were very repeatable, and occurred with different exhausts.

I think the stock airbox set-up can be definitely be improved beyond just a K&N panel filter, and is something I'm going to start investigating.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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So how can you know the change in question is due to the presence/absence of the filter and not due to the effect the more turbulent air has on the MAF signal? FWIW, any change that affects the accuracy of the MAF signal (such as removal of an air filter) will have an affect on the power curve, for better or worse, but in either case, only haphazardly so.

Some vendors here have likewise claimed the merits of certain parts that are nothing but a drain on the checkbook, simply because the claimed improvement doesn't actually result because said part offers a genuine improvement, but rather causes a change that is misinterpreted as being 'better'.

FYI
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