Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

373 whp and 313 trq.....UNHAPPY

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:07 PM
  #31  
4cefed's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 285
Likes: 0
From: Northern Iraq
I ment what if the meth pump goes out mid boost. the bottom line is with my mods those are low numbers.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:39 PM
  #32  
Evoryder's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (55)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,383
Likes: 10
From: ☼ Florida ☼
Originally Posted by 4cefed
I ment what if the meth pump goes out mid boost. the bottom line is with my mods those are low numbers.
they have fail safe methods for meth. Engine management...with default a/f
or actual fail safe along with the methanol pumps
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:42 PM
  #33  
Warrtalon's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 20,790
Likes: 2
From: Long Island, NY
Seriously, if you have a huge turbo but don't have meth due to not knowing about them, then you really made a poor monetary decision. Luckily, you can partially correct it by quickly learning about meth and then getting some.

Yeah, when it runs out, you fill it up. A good kit has a low fluid indicator just like your fuel gauge...

Drifto, this was on a Dynojet - not sure why he said it was a DD unless Alfred went to some other shop to tune him, because TT has a Dynojet.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:52 PM
  #34  
sonicnofadz's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,726
Likes: 3
From: Baltimore, MD
Originally Posted by 4cefed
This power was made at 22 psi... and I know that big ball bearing turbos need high boost to breath, but even Alfred thought it was a 3040, and I want to run pump only because what happens when you run out of meth??? I haven't done much research on the kits are there fail safes like if i am in boost and my pump goes.
Buy a good AFR gauge (the kind with a warning/alarm system), and a knock lite. You will be just fine.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:58 PM
  #35  
h.funk's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Lake O. Oregon
I dont think he has made a poor monetary decision. I think that his project is incomplete.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:37 PM
  #36  
Warrtalon's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 20,790
Likes: 2
From: Long Island, NY
The poor decision was spending so much money without doing enough research to understand why and how to properly utilize a large turbo. Usually, people already know all of this BEFORE spending ungodly amounts of money on such a huge turbo. Unfortunately, he didn't - that was his mistake. The fortunate side is that his mistakes are not uncorrectable. Yes, I agree the project is incomplete, but that is not by design - it's by sheer luck.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:12 PM
  #37  
Paul Nelson's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,249
Likes: 0
From: Team English Racing
Originally Posted by 20psiMR
Im going with Warr on this one. I know big shock since it seems like Ive been fighting with him all day haha.

Dude you bought a turbo that wants to see boost. You put all this money into the car, and you cant even put meth on it? You want to tune on CRAP cali 91 octane (I have first hand experience with this sh|t gas trying to tune) and make tons of horsepower? Seriously someone needs to backhand you. Someone posted earlier in another thread "you have to pay to play". Thats so true. Take your happy a$$ to the pump, put at LEAST 2 gallons of 100 every fill up and go back to alfred. Im sure you would be much happier and it would cost you like an extra $4.00 per fill up. That or buy meth. Meth is even easier. Your being gay.
Ive been hearing good results on the ethanol gas from the pumps. anyone else?
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:32 PM
  #38  
tripperfx3's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,736
Likes: 0
From: North Beach, MD
Originally Posted by ifarted2
Ive been hearing good results on the ethanol gas from the pumps. anyone else?
I believe ethanol has a higher octane rating (Warr or anyone else correct me if im wrong), but doesnt last as long in your tank. You'll be filling up more often. Meth is a proven fairly safe method as long as you get a good kit with an indicator and failsafe like everyone is saying. My friend (and im sure many others) has been running meth for over 2 years and hes had no problems with it.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:36 PM
  #39  
34Turbo's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 814
Likes: 0
From: Dallas
Big turbo = big boost to make power... On 91 oct it just won't happen. Get some meth brother and be happy... Hell I was scared of meth b4 but I have decided its the way to go if I wan't to hit 11s...
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:40 PM
  #40  
diegoalunan's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 612
Likes: 0
From: San Diego, CA
i would love to get 373 . id take it anyday.. but goodluck to u and tuning
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2006 | 11:35 PM
  #41  
Ang Wen Yan's Avatar
Evolved Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,552
Likes: 1
From: KL,Malaysia
Get some Meth,raise the boost 28~30psi and you should be very happy.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:00 AM
  #42  
SKILMATIC's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,671
Likes: 1
From: in a jet
Originally Posted by h.funk
I did read your sig. I thought the sc61 was mostly used for Honda apps???

no no no my friend it was actually test proven to make 400whp on a dsm first. Yes honda users use it too a matter of fact almost every 4 banger used it.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:42 AM
  #43  
EvOcHaRgeR's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (42)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
From: Anchorage, AK
Originally Posted by SKILMATIC
no no no my friend it was actually test proven to make 400whp on a dsm first. Yes honda users use it too a matter of fact almost every 4 banger used it.
I believe the sc61 is a presicion 60-1 turbo. If so, it can have the same A/R housings as a GT35R.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:36 AM
  #44  
TurboSpoolinIns's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
From: Minnesota
Originally Posted by EvOcHaRgeR
I believe the sc61 is a presicion 60-1 turbo. If so, it can have the same A/R housings as a GT35R.

Just had to jump in before more misinformation gets put in.

An "sc61" is just Precision Turbo's name for a t3/t4 based 61mm/56trim turbo with a Stg5 exhaust wheel. The difference between that and the 35R is the non-bb center, exhaust wheel, and the housings-maybe a few more things.

As far as this car not making power... if it was on a dynojet, yeah, it's pretty low for a 67mm turbo. What is on the exhaust side, a T3? T4? Which exhaust wheel? Stg3, stg5? P trim, GT37 wheel? More info would always help as a mismatch in turbo compressor and exhaust sides can always oddness in power/lag/anything else.

For example, a person I talk to that didn't listen to me decided to buy a .82 a/r T3 stg3-67mm turbo and full 26 psi of boost was at 6500rpm. I warned him beforehand of the oddball exhaust side combination. Anyways, what is your hotside?

Another thing, a 67mm will probably still make SIMILAR or more power than a 35R on "low" boost-20ish psi. For example, one of my past cars made 375whp on 16 psi, 455 whp on 21psi, 520 on 25 psi, and 617 on 30psi on a 67/P-trim. Just thought I'd throw that in to let you see how it makes more power when more boost is ran, but doesn't make "no power/less power" than a slightly smaller turbo (like a 35r).

Last edited by TurboSpoolinIns; Nov 8, 2006 at 06:46 AM.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:49 AM
  #45  
h.funk's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
From: Lake O. Oregon
Warr/ AMS I am about ready to pull the trigger on a ams 50 trim. The only mods that i have are fuel pump, mdc, forge bov. Is there anything else that I need to complete my project?
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:26 PM.