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Old May 29, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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cat removal

losing one horsepower and gaining 7 ftlbs of torque is a good trade off if you ask me. plus it drops about 10 pounds but decide for yourself. i hate the CEL though.
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Old May 29, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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i just PM'd you about the ur test pipe. i have it installed. have had it on for a couple weeks. no problems. maybe you have it installed incorrectly. PM me if you need help. i may be able to shed some light
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Old May 29, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Re: cat removal

Originally posted by Tarmac Black
losing one horsepower and gaining 7 ftlbs of torque is a good trade off if you ask me. plus it drops about 10 pounds but decide for yourself. i hate the CEL though.

Thats not the point.. the point is that the ECU did make changes because of the cel..



And 1 way to fix cel problems is to put a few resisters inline with the O2 sensor to make it read differently..


Also check with your vendors people ALOT of places sell these.. Some call the MIL eliminators, some call them O2 simulators, some call them dummy plugs..





-Zach
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Old May 29, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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Re: Re: cat removal

Originally posted by zyounker



Thats not the point.. the point is that the ECU did make changes because of the cel..
No it didn't. The car will run the same at wide open throttle, CEL or not. In fact, it would run the same at WOT without any O2 sensor on the car at all. But your gas milage would suck.
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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Re: Re: Re: cat removal

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No it didn't. The car will run the same at wide open throttle, CEL or not. In fact, it would run the same at WOT without any O2 sensor on the car at all. But your gas milage would suck.


Do you know this for a fact? i know that is how the 2nd gen DSM is. but a car loosing HP from removing a cat?


Sounds odd to me..


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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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i didnt know the ECU was making any changes. Buschur said it didnt make any changes. I thought the test pipe was causing the h.p. and torque numbers to change directly. maybe ill put my high flow cat in instead.
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Tarmac Black
i didnt know the ECU was making any changes. Buschur said it didnt make any changes. I thought the test pipe was causing the h.p. and torque numbers to change directly. maybe ill put my high flow cat in instead.

Well, i would like to hear more on this, cause it just doesnt seem right.


Usually you loose hp and gain torque when you put in a cat..


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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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one hp

one hp is so irrelevant
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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No, but if you figure out why you will probably gain more then that
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Re: one hp

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one hp is so irrelevant
Exactly.

Relevant to a Honda.

Irrelevant to a 4G63T owner.
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Old May 29, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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thanks for all the input guys. still like to know the cel trick though
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Old May 29, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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that trick will die with me
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Old May 29, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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http://www.casperselectronics.com/cg...roduct=IMPORTS

This might work

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Old May 30, 2003 | 01:51 AM
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the second oxygen sensor is called an efficiency monitor. All, I repeat all OBDII cars have the same working principle. The second 02 is there to make sure that the catalytic converter is working properly. When the cat is missing, the ecu reads the same voltage for the front 02 as the second 02, therefore throwing a fast reponse code. There has to be enough drive cycles to throw a code. Usually it will be 10 cylcles before the ecu determines to show you a CEL. Just because you dont see a CEL doesnt mean there isn't a code in the ecu. I have the Ultimate turbo-back, and there is no code. Clever way to fool the ecu.
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