Supporting Mods For 50trim?
- No one said a cat-back for $800. I said a TBE for $600-800
- He doesn't have a ported turbo to sell, just a regular stock 05
- He obviously doesn't have a custom external dump o2 housing
- The stock LICP is worth nothing, and he doesn't have an aftermarket one
- Your used parts that added up to $1000 do not apply to this person
- My ACT went out after a weekend on the road course. It lasted a year, and I had 100 less whp and 50 less wtq than you. The ACT street is not recommended for a setup like yours (or his)
- I am a low budget racer, too. I ran my 12.2s before getting one sponsor and ran 12.0s with my only sponsorship being a test pipe and downpipe. That's how I GOT my sponsorships. Regardless, your mod list above is closer to $7500 WITHOUT installation, and this guy said he has $6k, so I still don't understand your point...
- He doesn't have a ported turbo to sell, just a regular stock 05
- He obviously doesn't have a custom external dump o2 housing
- The stock LICP is worth nothing, and he doesn't have an aftermarket one
- Your used parts that added up to $1000 do not apply to this person
- My ACT went out after a weekend on the road course. It lasted a year, and I had 100 less whp and 50 less wtq than you. The ACT street is not recommended for a setup like yours (or his)
- I am a low budget racer, too. I ran my 12.2s before getting one sponsor and ran 12.0s with my only sponsorship being a test pipe and downpipe. That's how I GOT my sponsorships. Regardless, your mod list above is closer to $7500 WITHOUT installation, and this guy said he has $6k, so I still don't understand your point...
My Act lasted for 3 years and then I sold the car. It needed an adjustment every now and again but held like a champ and shifted at High RPMS' without protest. It was a very nice clutch for the Evo just like it was for the DSM..
And this was on an Evo with a 50-trim pushing over 400whp and being raced? Doubtful...
^^ he could opt for a 6 puct sprung hub design if he plans to push it on a regular basis... That will hold more than a street disc .. I hardly use my car or push it ive only taken it to the track 1 time with this setup and occasional street pull.
- No one said a cat-back for $800. I said a TBE for $600-800
- He doesn't have a ported turbo to sell, just a regular stock 05
- He obviously doesn't have a custom external dump o2 housing
- The stock LICP is worth nothing, and he doesn't have an aftermarket one
- Your used parts that added up to $1000 do not apply to this person
- My ACT went out after a weekend on the road course. It lasted a year, and I had 100 less whp and 50 less wtq than you. The ACT street is not recommended for a setup like yours (or his)
- I am a low budget racer, too. I ran my 12.2s before getting one sponsor and ran 12.0s with my only sponsorship being a test pipe and downpipe. That's how I GOT my sponsorships. Regardless, your mod list above is closer to $7500 WITHOUT installation, and this guy said he has $6k, so I still don't understand your point...
- He doesn't have a ported turbo to sell, just a regular stock 05
- He obviously doesn't have a custom external dump o2 housing
- The stock LICP is worth nothing, and he doesn't have an aftermarket one
- Your used parts that added up to $1000 do not apply to this person
- My ACT went out after a weekend on the road course. It lasted a year, and I had 100 less whp and 50 less wtq than you. The ACT street is not recommended for a setup like yours (or his)
- I am a low budget racer, too. I ran my 12.2s before getting one sponsor and ran 12.0s with my only sponsorship being a test pipe and downpipe. That's how I GOT my sponsorships. Regardless, your mod list above is closer to $7500 WITHOUT installation, and this guy said he has $6k, so I still don't understand your point...
Got it now?
While everyone is busy debating I'm going to suggest something for Mr Evo MR.
Work on the supporting mods first. Trust me when I tell you that if you try to install a turbo and can't afford the rest to fully extract it's power potential you will be left with a sour taste in your mouth and no money to change it (for awhile).
My suggestions are as follows...and I'll try to be reasonable on prices
Cat-back exhaust--$550 (Yes I said catback cause a turbo kit should come with a DP)
Cams--$500 (I recommend HKS or GSC if you're on the stock head)
Lower IC pipe--$150 (screw the upper, it provides little gain)
Intercooler--$600 (don't skimp on this, go with a known product)
Walboro--$85
Clutch--$800-1400 (if you plan 400hp+ in the future go with a twin)
MBC--$80
ARP Head Studs--$90 (do em while you put the cams in)
Custom Flash--$400
After shipping you're looking at $3900 on these items. Assume that you use a professional shop to install all these parts at $70/hr labor for at least 10 hours...$700. (conservative)
So after that you'll be left with $1400. My suggestion after that is to save that money until you have enough for whatever turbo you choose. Then you'll be ready. In the mean time, you'll enjoy the new found power you just unleashed.
Work on the supporting mods first. Trust me when I tell you that if you try to install a turbo and can't afford the rest to fully extract it's power potential you will be left with a sour taste in your mouth and no money to change it (for awhile).
My suggestions are as follows...and I'll try to be reasonable on prices
Cat-back exhaust--$550 (Yes I said catback cause a turbo kit should come with a DP)
Cams--$500 (I recommend HKS or GSC if you're on the stock head)
Lower IC pipe--$150 (screw the upper, it provides little gain)
Intercooler--$600 (don't skimp on this, go with a known product)
Walboro--$85
Clutch--$800-1400 (if you plan 400hp+ in the future go with a twin)
MBC--$80
ARP Head Studs--$90 (do em while you put the cams in)
Custom Flash--$400
After shipping you're looking at $3900 on these items. Assume that you use a professional shop to install all these parts at $70/hr labor for at least 10 hours...$700. (conservative)
So after that you'll be left with $1400. My suggestion after that is to save that money until you have enough for whatever turbo you choose. Then you'll be ready. In the mean time, you'll enjoy the new found power you just unleashed.
No, just a solid 350-350. The Clutch was measured in torque and it was rated at 500 FP's, which even a 50Trim on race gas can't crack. On pump gas generally the 50 Trim has Stock or lower Torque levels. WHP doesn't kill a clutch, torque does. I would immagine that a larger turbo would put LESS punishment then the OEM turbo as it is harder to get them to SNAP to full boost much liker an OEM turbo. As long as the torque levels are below 500, the ACT will be more then enough for a 50 Trim, even if the 50Trim is making 500WHP on race gas and only 420 FP's of torque. I know that there are better clutches out there, it's just that the ACT worked really well for me and can be found for less then half of the price. As long as it is adjusted properly it will shift great and hold for a long time. I know you had issues with shifting up top, I have no idea what they were. You yourself had an amazingly long time on the OEM clutch. It's all in the driver and proper adjustment.
Last edited by High_PSI; Feb 17, 2007 at 07:02 AM.
Agreed. It is the torque compacity that needs to be monitored, not the WHP. Heck even a GT35R making less then 500 FP of torque woudl work. IDK how well the ACT would handle 8000+ RPM shifts though, but generally for 7500-7800 it worked for me perfectly.
I usually shift at 8000 in 1st gear due to me immediately lighting up the tires, never had a problem. I was very skeptical about getting the ACT after hearing all these high rpm shifting problems, funny I never experienced this though...
Thats off topic though!
You're saying they're just going to suddenly chop off a few thousand to get the guy's business? I'll believe it if I see it. Add up the cost of the mods YOU listed and tell me what you get. Everyone else seems to realize that 6k is not enough - I'm not sure why you think TT will lop off $2k just to meet this guy's unrealistic budget.
You're saying they're just going to suddenly chop off a few thousand to get the guy's business? I'll believe it if I see it. Add up the cost of the mods YOU listed and tell me what you get. Everyone else seems to realize that 6k is not enough - I'm not sure why you think TT will lop off $2k just to meet this guy's unrealistic budget.
I just figured that 6 g's is enough with evrything including the turbo.
You guys really know your ****!
You're saying they're just going to suddenly chop off a few thousand to get the guy's business? I'll believe it if I see it. Add up the cost of the mods YOU listed and tell me what you get. Everyone else seems to realize that 6k is not enough - I'm not sure why you think TT will lop off $2k just to meet this guy's unrealistic budget.
Just let the guy call Turbotrix and then he can decide for himself if the $6000 will be enough or not. Thats what Im trying to say.






