thats not a fair comparison...something like the 30r/50trim that everyone uses to n2o is...

 

Torque is Torque and HP is HP. How it is generated has no bearing on the stress put on pistons, rods, and such. The real risk is backfires which usually happen right out of the gate when the N20 puddles up in the intake. This can simply be avoid by not spraying in 1st and using a window switch, an ASM or UTEC to control the spray. In your example which it totally impossible anyway. I would say that yes if the enguild is built to be bulletproof with fogger sytem in a custom manifold I just oubt in real works that you could ever get enough fuel and nitrous in thee wo make a 1000 HP shot

 

There is so much ignorance in this thread it baffles me.

Running nitrous in an unsafe way is what I would compare running a turbo in an unsafe way too. Look at the following analogys for me.

Nitrous without a wideband is to turbo without a bov.
Nitrous without a tuned AFR is to 28 psi on pump gas stock turbo.

Nitrous is nothing more than power. Nitrous itself does NOT blow motors. Extremly lean conditions and insanely hot EGT's blow motors, and last I checked I have heard of hunderds of people blowing there motors on too much boost, poor tunes, and aggressive timing, causing intense EGT's and lean AFR's. The general concensus on this board is around 500 HP will break your stock motor pretty well. If I reach 500 hp on nitrous or 500 hp on a big turbo, its the same strain. And your 1200 DSM analogy was moronic, because there is no possible way to delever what would ammount to like an 800 shot on a 4 cylinder motor effectivly.

 

this is just a flat retarded argument. A 1050 shot? What's that worth, like 5000 ft. lbs.? Show me a turbo that can make 5000 ft. lbs., and then let's compare apples to apples in this silly comparison.

Frenchy, are you even modded?

 

Your missing the point..

If the numbers are wrong, fine, I said I made them up for arguments sake.

What would the maximum amount of nitrous be on an Evo?

If you made the same power with a turbo, I believe it would put less stress on the car. And still no one has shown me any testing to prove otherwise.

Am I modded? yes, no nitrous.

What does that have to do with this topic?

Doubleugly, do you have a vagina?
see? pointless..

 

Show Me Proof Of That Nitrous Is Bad For Evos And That Turbo Is Safer...

 

I ask the question because you are very critical of everyone else's setups, but never post about your setup or your own personal experience. You obviously don't spray nitrous, yet your an authority on the subject and we should believe you????? Right....

I have a vagina, it's mine whenever I want it. Isn't marriage grand!

 

Well, I spray a 100 shot, and the only thing it has messed up is my clutch, but I knew that was going to happen anyway. I spray safe though, and I know what im looking for, and when something is going wrong. And again, please link me to some proof that nitrous is more stressful on the motor than a bigger turbo. Not to mention, I paid 150 for my nitrous kit, 260 for my wideband, and thats it, so 410 dollars for 100+ wheel HP. Show me a turbo that cheap that I can pick up 100+ wheel and I will gladly buy it tonite.

 

I got a bottle of nitrous under my bed and still don't know what to do with it. I had it since I went to englishtown in october or november of 2005!!! what you guyz think.?.

 

I never claimed to be an authority on the subject..

I said I believe a larger turbo is a safer power adder than nitrous when it comes to higher power applications.

That's pretty much all I've been saying, just repeating it over and over again, and asking for someone to show me that nitrous is just as safe.

I've even said that when used properly and tuned correctly, nitrous can be safe, but when it comes to high power (600whp+) I would trust a larger turbo over a larger shot of nitrous.

Instead of having an educated discussion, which I've been open to, all I've heard is how I'm wrong, but yet no one can say why.. Just that "I've used a small amount of nitrous, and that means it's safe."

I'm done with this thread, again. Happy spraying

 

you haven't been open to an educated discussion. All you've said is "I'm right, prove me wrong". Your here in this thread trying to tell everyone how nitrous isn't as safe as boost. You're already convinced of that. I'm not, and neither are others that have posted educated responses. I think the monkey is on your back to prove yourself right, not on the forums back to prove you are wrong.

And small is relative.... no one is advocating spraying 1050 whp worth of nitrous. Maybe a 150 shot, and by most measures, that's not "small".

That's the point.

 

Frenchy, you are a ****ing idiot. You keep calling us out to show you proof of nitrous being safe, yet you have sofar proved nothing about turbochargers being safer. Please stop spreading misinformation. When set up properly, you have no more chance of blowing a motor on spray than on a big turbo. It happens that lots of people will use nitrous in unsafe ways much more often than not. It is quite cheap to set up nitrous in an unsafe but functional manner, and then something goes wrong and your motor goes boom. However, if you spend the money on saftey devices, such as window switches, widebands, and the knowledge of nitrous, you really have nothing to worry about. Now please stop saying "NOS is bad, and will blow your motor" with no clue what you are talking about other than what you have heard from other morons.

 

Pure OWNAGE

 

Ownage?

nobody's proven anything.. myself included.. this is dumb..

me: nitrous isn't as safe as a turbo
them: yes it is
me: can you prove that?
them: you prove it
me: I'm done with this thread
them: ha, were right your wrong

conclusion: I still believe a turbo is a safer power adder than nitrous, you guys think nitrous is just as safe as a turbo.

So, in the end this was all a waste of everyone's time, congradulations to everyone.

This IS my last post in this thread I promise

 

Ok, that was the admission that I wanted to hear, sorry for going off on you before, now it is just two different opinions. I have had no problems running nitrous in other cars, hell, I had a v6 izusu rodeo that I ran a 125 shot on for a year and a half and never had one problem.