Buschur Exhuast testing - + 23 WHP (dyno sheet and Video!)

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Mar 17, 2007 | 09:05 AM

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BUT i am happy with my dynoflash results and i used Buschur for my Talon Tsi and will probably use him for my evo in the future

Mar 17, 2007 | 10:03 AM

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From: الرصاص والمدافع والخنازير يا بلدي!

Reading these 12 pages I just realized I've wasted a 1/2 hour that I'll never get back!!!!......

Mar 17, 2007 | 11:30 AM

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Hey, Warrtalon. Did you also take into account of the dyno reading variance between pulls and the better quality tune when you swicthed to the new turbo and the BR turbo-back? I'm almost 100 percent sure that is why you gain a whopping 5whp.

Are you also planning on converting your Evo 9 turbo to a 20glt. That would be a really good idea. That would make you more competitive in autocrossing, or is that breaking the rules?

Mar 18, 2007 | 12:05 AM

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i remember someone told me to get a greddy exhaust system because according to this is was high quality and looked really nice.

I told him I would rather listen to the kings of DSM and go with Buschur...Enough said.

Mar 18, 2007 | 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve@NoLimitmotors

DAVE- yea I could say this in PM form but I'm not because I bet at least 5 people are going to quote this and say they agree just in this thread alone. The last time I typed something like people PM'd me for 3 days telling me good post.

I really do understand where your coming from and I really do understand the aggravation you must go through reading some of these peoples posts. So many of them read only the first post and asked the same questions I have asked. And I know you bite your toungue or fingers for so long until you just cant do it anymore. BUT you need to realize that AL has destroyed his reputation even before this thread, even before the exhaust issue. And his fanboy antics with you are causing people to turn away. Alot of this is due to ignorance because people see it as YOU promoting your products and knocking others even thought its not you. Hes representing you when he does these tests and whether or not some of them are accurate its still just turning people away. The man has a following of happy customers and a list of just as many unhappy. You have been in the Mitsu scene for 10 times as long and you have 10 times more happy customers and probably 1/10th the amount of unhappy customers. His customer service skills and condescending attitude towards people is not what Buschur is about. I dont care how many times you go through this on any forum, Its hurting you more then its helping you. NO ONE DOUBTS YOUR PRODUCTS, THEY ARE AWESOME, but the people who buy these other exhausts are going to end up never buying anything in the future from buschur either because they will have such a sour taste in their mouth from AL. and the people who are supportive of your products either already have them or were going to buy them anyway. Look through this thread and see what the supportes of the test have said. Things like "this just further shows why buschur's products are on my car" etc....

I know you know way better then I do whats good for your business, as you've built it into an industry standard in the mitsu world. Your name is known by everyone with any mitsu that has anything done to it in the US and even internationally. BUT i'm telling you now just from seeing the way things are going, AL is hurting you more then helping you. You already tune better then he does, I just dont see why you keep this relationship with him. The man has nothing to offer you that you cant do yourself most likely better.

I spoke to you recently through PM about wanting you to work on my own personal car. That says alot from another vendor who does installs, works on cars etc... Yea I could put together a motor/turbo kit AEM and tune it but I dont want to be bothered. I think so highly of your work that I'll bring it to you before I work on it myself because I then know its in great hands and I dont have to deal with it. Whether or not you remove AL from sucking to your rear cheek, i'm still bringing you my car as long as my finances work in my favor, but I really think you'd be better off conduting your own tests.

Mr Buschur, if you do anything else in this puny world we live in, I hope it is to listen to this man posting a very heart felt plea to dump Al all together. He is completely on point

Buschur + Dynoflash = Priceless (AKA worthless)
Buschur Alone = Well You get the point

Mar 18, 2007 | 07:20 AM

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The ignorance on this forum is staggering, good work Al for trying to give all the misinformed (and there are many) evo owners something to start with, the only people complaining are the one whos butt hurt because they got themselves an inferior product.

Jared

Mar 18, 2007 | 07:24 AM

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LOL
Now who is ignorant?

Its not about the product, its about the message and the messenger.
I'll stop now because I don't want to start a brawl.

Mar 18, 2007 | 08:07 AM

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You know, Steve you might be right about some of your points. I think this exhaust testing is probably a waste of time and I will probably mention to Al to just give up on it. Probably the best thing for him is if I just send a new turbo back to his shop, when he needs to show that it makes a difference he can simply swap it on the customers car, show him the power increase. Sell the customer the exhaust and I can ship him another. The customer can then make his own statments.

On the other hand, some/many (whatever) of you don't like Al. I have to be honest and stick up for the guy. He is an excellent tuner, VERY passionate about his work and he is also a VERY good friend of mine. Maybe him and I get along well because are both dicks

haha I don't know why but we do get along very well.

Al was here this weekend for another tuning marathon. He will NOT stop tuning a car until it is as good as it is going to get. That says alot for him. When we are done tuning we go to dinner every night, then back to my house where we BS more for hours.

Anyway, personally, I enjoy Al's friendship and company. We butt heads but usually only on "scheduling" I'm an early morning, on time to the minute kind of guy and he is a later riser and get it done whenever kinda guy.

The recent "I'm gonna do a real intercooler test with my hokey meters and a g-tech" thread shows me that some guys will accept any information and that this testing is probably not really very important at all.

We are out there setting records and going faster than anyone else, that should be enough to sell parts.

Thanks for all the input.