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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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Intake/tune... confusion/concern

I have read a lot of posts about tunes and ecu flash involving aftermarket intake.
I have a 06 IX with an injen intake runs and idle normally.
but with all the talk about running lean/ rich and defunked maf readings
even read some that destroyed the motor
very concerned.....

problem one: i live in texas and no evo tuners to be found

two: how much will this run me

three: who all is capable of tuning? just take it to a 4wheel dyno ?

fourth and most important : will an injen intake seriously screw my motor.
im getting alot of different opinions and responses. i have never had an issue with intakes involving Mas. my friend has an srt-4 and has had an injen intake on his partial mitsu motor. and living in texas seems to make it really hard to get this tune needed for an injen intake. seems a bit much for just installing an intake, tho im new to the evo.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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1) Doesn't matter.
2) Less than the cost of the intake while getting tons more power and reliability
3) Dynoflash can tune you remotely with an eflash or a mail-in flash
4) Maybe, maybe not, but why would you be so attached to it? It does nothing except make noise and be shiny. Wouldn't you rather get a lot of power and features for your money?

It doesn't matter what your friend's srt-4 does or any other car - this is an Evo. Just ask yourself why you'd spend $350-400 for a shiny thing that makes noise and screws up your MAF readings instead of $350-400 on something that does not make noise, is undetectable, makes LOTS of power, smooths out the powerband, gives you extra features (launch control, raised rev limiter, removal of fuel cut, removal of boost taper). Does that make any sense?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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scrap the intake or get a tune for it. KevinD in Dallas can tune, so can EngineLogics in Houston. Check the south region subforum (better yet, make this same post there) for more details. Eflashes would be a better choice than the just the intake alone, but not as good a choice as a custom tune from one of the local shops. Pick your poison, but don't take the chance of popping the motor because you like your injen intake.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Put that thing up for sale and use the money you make back to get something that actually improves the performance of the car. A couple ideas that come to mind are a rear sway bar, a downpipe, maybe even an MBC if you combine it with a tune. In my opinion intakes are for the naturally aspirated crowd or those Evo owners just looking to dress up the engine bay. Look at all the 11 second Evos (and SRT-4's for that matter...I used to own one) running on the stock airbox if you're questioning the efficiency of the stock setup. Your money would be better spent elsewhere.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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not to sound like a geek but i like the sound of an opened up turbo air passage
other concern is i dont want to raise rev limiter, or change any factory setting that may protect the motor from failure or damage. just the aspects of the added intake, injen reps say it will run rich lancer shop says lean and its half and half here on evom
i just want to correct this change in the mas ... if there is a change or if its needed...


also whats an eflash? how is that possible .... keep in mind im new to mas and ecu
first moded car was a 79 camaro fully built 400 ci all aftermarket from bolts to the crank. but little electronic control, so pardon the ignorance with flash/piggyback/maping and such
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:51 PM
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You didn't bother to do any homework or research, so I'm not going to bother to help you, especially when you start off by saying you "like the sound of an opened up turbo air passage." Seriously, do you like your $30k car or not? Do you want it to be fast, or do you want it to make noise? That doesn't make you a geek; it makes you a ricer.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by method06
not to sound like a geek but i like the sound of an opened up turbo air passage
other concern is i dont want to raise rev limiter, or change any factory setting that may protect the motor from failure or damage. just the aspects of the added intake, injen reps say it will run rich lancer shop says lean and its half and half here on evom
i just want to correct this change in the mas ... if there is a change or if its needed...


also whats an eflash? how is that possible .... keep in mind im new to mas and ecu
first moded car was a 79 camaro fully built 400 ci all aftermarket from bolts to the crank. but little electronic control, so pardon the ignorance with flash/piggyback/maping and such
Hate to do this to ya man, but if the shoe fits...

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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Hate to do this to ya man, but if the shoe fits...

wow .. that was friendly. yes i did the research . problem was i found a lot of back and forth answers talking to injen reps and lancershop and autocity all said different things. now on the forums im hearing alot about a/f faults. eaither way im looking to get the best results with the installed intake just today i discovered kevind from someone who posted something that actually was helpful. ive pm him and now im looking into alamo which has a 4w dynojet that i just discovered.

anyways dont judge people so quickly i started building my first motor at 14 in 1994 with some help from my dad and some local gearhead buddys no internet back than at least not that my parents can afford. im 28 now and have a long list of cars ive owned and worked on getting into imports in 1998 and buying my first evo in 2007 and discovering the evo is a whole new world of breathing living performance the damn thing has its own brain not just a nervous system give me a break. its a diff world from h22a and turbo d16z6

anyways thanks to those that were helpful and not so quick to judge
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Hey I'm not the guy who outright said I won't bother to help you. I'm not judging you either. You'll learn the most and fastest by reading the knowledgebase that is EvoM. I actually know where you're coming from though. In 1994, at the age of 17, I was in my 3rd year of building up a '66 Cuda. It's definately a different world on these little cars when you pop the hood. But, just as you researched the snot out of that electronic distributor back in '95, you need to do the same here. Things like intakes and VTA BOV's are junk for the most part. Let the kids play with that stuff. If you're gonna stick with the Injen you'll either need a mail-in ECU flash or to visit an Evo tuner. That's my personal opinion. Others may say you'll be fine and not to sweat it. Ultimately it's your call but right now that intake is doing nothing for you besides some cool noises.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure Steiner was referring to searching what an E-flash was not searching your topic in general
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by chaotichoax
I'm pretty sure Steiner was referring to searching what an E-flash was not searching your topic in general
Correct!
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chaotichoax
I'm pretty sure Steiner was referring to searching what an E-flash was not searching your topic in general
noted and done ... actually meant to quote the above comment about being a ricer.

ive just been finding alot of generic posts about complete remaping of the ecu with rev limit and fuel cut and such im not looking for that much alteration to the already stellar setup... im discovering alot of folks say keep stock box + tune is better may just swap it back this weekend actually hell i havnt even taken my car over 4000 rpms only have 350 miles on it and dyno this soon is a no go
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Hate to do this to ya man, but if the shoe fits...

i actually made phone calls not just surfed .. i just dont understand how mail in and eflash works.. couldnt possible be 200 for a new ecu... and how am i to connect to my ecu from home?
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Well the winner goes to KevinD, he had the best and most detailed/helpful explanation I have found. thanks to kevinD and all who posted
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