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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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Camber and Toe Settings

I've been looking through various forums including this one and have found so many different alignment settings. I was wondering what alignment settings I would need that would make the Evo handle even better than stock. Currently I have:

Front Camber -1
Front Toe -1
Rear Camber -.75
Rear Toe 0


I have coilovers with the camber plates so I can adjust the fronts to have more negative. Should I decrease the front more along with the back or should I leave it alone.Do you guys have any recommendations? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Re: Camber and Toe Settings

Originally posted by s4awd
I was wondering what alignment settings I would need that would make the Evo handle even better than stock. Currently I have:

Front Camber -1
Front Toe -1
Rear Camber -.75
Rear Toe 0

Should I decrease the front more along with the back or should I leave it alone.
First of all, there is no magic number in there that will work for everyone. Every single number you specified goes along with the particular driver and the his/her driving style. 2 degrees of negative camber might be too much for someone who doesn't push the car as hard as it can go and it will ended up with inside of the tire too hot and possible damage it pretty quick. At the same time, this same number might be too small for very aggressive driver, who still manages to roll those tires over and overheat outside edges.

So, my advice is to start with one of them and do bunch of testing. Use pyrometer to find correct temperatures across the thread. That will take care of the camber.

Now, if you want extra tuning in order to play with let say rear end, you can start adding more toe out until you find your edges that work for your driving style.

Decreasing (or even increasing, which is very hard to tune correctly, so stay away from that) of the rear camber would give you looser car. Be your own judge and find what the best is for you!

Good luck!

Fedja
ps. let us know what are the numbers that are good for you after all!
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Hi s4awd

How's it goin? Hope you didnt scratch any of those nice Enkeis yet!

Try -1.5 front and -0.5 camber rear; that will make it more neutral and give it more of an oversteer tendency under acceleration.

Start with neutral toe: handles fine and wears tires less. If you want to change it later on, go ahead
Claudius is da' man!
Just had mine aligned yesterday to -1.6 camber fronts, -.5 rears and zero toe on front and back...MAN what a nice improvement!!! Much of the understeer is gone and higher corner speeds are easily achieved on some of my favorite back roads. I can't wait until my next track day to see how the change feels on track.

The settings from the factory weren't the same on either side or front to back. Maybe that's why they say no more than 10k on new tires.
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Old Jun 13, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks guys for your responses. Claudius, I'm going to bump the front to -1.5 as you suggested and leave the rear alone. If there are scratches on my wheels, I wouldn't even know because they are dirty as hell. . I got tired of cleaning them so they are almost grey now
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Old Jun 15, 2003 | 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Claudius
Hi s4awd

How's it goin? Hope you didnt scratch any of those nice Enkeis yet!

Try -1.5 front and -0.5 camber rear; that will make it more neutral and give it more of an oversteer tendency under acceleration.

Start with neutral toe: handles fine and wears tires less. If you want to change it later on, go ahead
That front camber number sounds pretty aggressive to me.... I remember running -1.5° in the rear of my Miata and i managed to wear the tires out pretty severely in a short time...(big, expensive TOYO Proxes P1s).. I think I dont drive agressively enought to utilize that particular camber (the local revenue agents hate it when I try to drive spiritedly). Oh yeah, in my Integra GSR, I lowered the car a good bit and got some pretty serious negative camber too (can't remember the numbers now..). Anyway, my tires got pretty worn in the inside as well, I was showing cords inside with plenty of rubber outside ...

I do think my car is out of alignment though, I will take it to a shop soon to see what they find out. What are the factory recomendations for the EVO alignment?

Thanks
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