* <--- David- don't forget to use this mark when add this new in-line boost controller to your list of accolades.

 

Yes, MR.02, when the final pieces are made the boost controller is going to be knearled (sp?), have a line to mark and numbered for adjustment.

 

So then tell me what the difference is when a Chinese company takes one of your products, reverse engineers it and makes a subtle change? Maybe they use different material because they think it is superior because it costs less?

No difference in my mind. You have lost all credibility to claim any copy infringments in the aftermarket world.

Frankly, there is not 1 thing you have done that hasn't been done. People were racing cars 50+ years ago and making parts to make them faster.

 

DB, calling the Perrin guys accusers?? .... hmm .... I read your posts too ...you are the one that flat out said you replicated their part ....... Perrin and gang only gave their two cents after you made your initial post .... (informing the whole community on how you, pissed off like a teen-ager, copied a fellow american's product, and are now going to sell it)

Regardless, yes, people copy crap every day, in every aspect of business ... you just did it, and marketed it in a crappy way .....

But oh well ... damage is done ...

Everyone can turn the page hopefully .....

 

The Chinese parts are duplicate copies with lesser materials. Hence why they cost so cheap. If you think otherwise you're mistaken.

DB did not copy a product. He took something good and expounded on it to make it better. Anyone with half a brain can realize this.

 

Yes excatly, that is why he bought the ebay chinese made O2housing and ceramic coated it and sell it and it makes 15 more wheel horse. Must be some damn good ceramic coat.

 

Huh? He tested it uncoated and found it to be better than porting the stocker. He then bought a bunch, coated them, and started selling them, because they were the best part on the market. He never claimed higher power with the coating, but the coating is an advantage, and it was a way to make a profit while also providing the best available part.

Not sure what you're talking about here...

 

If I remember correctly he freely advertises that it's an ebay part and never once denied it. However, you don't see him selling ebay FMIC's, turbos or TBE's do you?

 

so the ebay chinese made products does have some improvements in performance.

 

how did he improve it? He says he changed the spring...how does dave know the best spring to use? does he have a mechanical engineering degree or something?

I agree it does look different from the outside but the inside is still going to be a spring a disc(the ball) and a seating surface just like any regulating valve used in any other industry.

 

Yes I see what you meant now, DB bought the good product "ebay chinese made o2housing". Then he ceramic coated it "which made it better". I see how that works.

So all you people out there bashing on cheap ebay chinese made products, think before you start typing, Cause DB even admits it was a good product. If not, why would he sell it?????

 

ouch...

 

okay, let me ask everyone this...

IF he really wanted to purchase and resell the product, why didnt he go to a WD instead?? how does anyone know WHO actually sent him the catalog?? perhaps it was one of HIS vendors he purchases from?? we will never know at this point.

second, since he is such an "innovator", why didnt he "invent'' this in the first place?? why did it take an argument, threat to copy the design, and post in this forum to make it Okay/justifiable for him to copy it??

i do believe that Mr. Buschur could be a little more political when trying to obtain a vendor. sure it would be great if Perrin decides to sell to them, but after this debacle it just wouldnt be the same relationship.

we will never know what happened in the original conversation with Perrin and its CEO unless it was recorded for "customer service" reasons.

in post number 4, it was clearly stated that they didnt want to jump into business with competing companies as they had a shakey track record for their products being "lifted". that was clearly stated.

they even commended you "hope your new design works well for you, seems interesting."


sounds like to me that they were trying to mend things and it got out of hand.

16 pages is alot of reading....

even though i may not always agree with mr. Buschur or he may not always agree with me, his products work well for some and not for others as time has dictated.

sooo,

Perrin-2
Buschur-1

.02

 

Damn Lomptons!

 

every manual boost controller is based off the same concept... and you dont need a mechanical engineering degree to determine that changing a spring rate will adversely effect the way your mbc and car hold boost. Maybe he installed the piece, it didnt perform as well as he'd like, instead of tossing it in the trash, he said damn, i think i can make this better and more visually appealing at the same time. With your line of thinking, everyone in the world copied Ford when they came out with the automobile and we all should be driving the same exact looking and performing vehicle. Its amazing, but the reason we dont is because people have came around and developed newer and better things, based off the original idea and are more visually appealing
You obviously must be chinese. I can understand sticking up for the home team and all, but try not to make your arguements so one sided. If you took the time to read a post made a long time ago by DB i think discussing different O2 housings and HP production. It was determined that the stainless O2 out performs the stocker, even when its ported. You dont have to buy the chinese ebay O2 to get this effect, but, they are cheap and they work the same, so why not. Coating it helps keep the temps down which i am pretty sure there arent any chinese coated ebay O2 housings available. I havent look, but im going out on a limb with that one. Since the desired shape of the O2 is pretty much the same and must fit the stock locations.... there is no need to make a durastic change. And as Cirrusly Evolvd stated, DB openly sells this as the ebay O2, for roughly the same price. The guarantee with them though is.... more than likely it is going to ship when you want it to, and not be lost in the sometimes impossible ebay web of deceit