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I have been trying to get the drift guys into twin scrolls and bigger A/R's for awhile. I think the Enjiku guys might finaly be trying it. Geoff, you might want to give the T350 wheels a try. A 76 trim in a divided TO4 housing flows more than a P trim, has 4 points more turbine effiecency and has 40 percent less inertia. A T350 is commonly known as the Turbonetics stage V, pre F-1.
The T350 is definately a good wheel. Its the first 10 blade turbine i know of? Definately ahead of its time. The only reason we arent experimenting with it is becuase turbonetics has the F1 turbine wheels, no sense in going backwards in technology. i prefer the stage V to the p trim, unless a 67 comp wheel is being used (and even then it still works suprisingly well despite the mismatch). glad to have you in this discussion mike, youre one of the most knowledgeable guys ive ever met
I have a couple questions for you geoff. I am currently running an AMS front mount with their licp and uicp. If I was to keep my current front mount and get your TS 40r without the intercooler, would I be able to modify the licp to fit the turbo? Also, what size injectors would you recommend for 40r setup? I am planning to use stock ecu/TS 40r/stock block for the moment. In the future, it will be standalone/TS 40r/built 2.3L with meth/alky no race gas. That being said, I don't want to have to switch injectors once I put them in. I guess I am looking for something stock ecu will be able to handle and still support enough flow when I use meth later on with ~30 pounds of boost.
For the 40R, its definately going to be interesting to what the MAF can do, and if it can keep up? The injector size I normally recommend is 1000cc or 1200cc. I do not know if the stock ecu can control this big of an injector? If you had a standalone i would recommend 1000cc if its more of a street car and 1200cc if its more of a high boost car.
Hello, Full-Race Geoff, I'm in love with your work
I gonna have 2.2 Cossie stroker with full build Cossie Head & other supporting mods on my Evo8, planning to do everyday drive, circuit races & perhaps some drag racing. What would be the best twinscroll setup for me 3076 or F1-35R or bigger? If I use turbo bigger than 35R do I strictly have to use custom engine management?
I gonna have 2.2 Cossie stroker with full build Cossie Head & other supporting mods on my Evo8, planning to do everyday drive, circuit races & perhaps some drag racing. What would be the best twinscroll setup for me 3076 or F1-35R or bigger? If I use turbo bigger than 35R do I strictly have to use custom engine management?If you are looking to daily drive and circuit race, i recommend the 3076. If you will be doing less circuit and more drag, the 35R would be the next choice. the 40R is likely to be more turbo than you need
I dont have any first hand experience with any of Full Race's products, but the pictures and testimonials should be enough to show their quality. Anyway, I can tell you Geoff is probly the nicest and most knowledgable person I've ever dealt with. I had contacted him maybe 7-8 months ago about a turbo kit. He had mentioned the twin scroll 40r then, and basically said everything that's been mentioned in this thread. He was always very quick to respond to e-mails, and very helpful. I feel bad having not gone through with the project after he was so helpful with everything. I sold the Evo, but if Full Race has any plans to start developing parts for the 335i, I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from him. A little off topic I know, but I wanted to share my experience with Geoff, and recommend Full Race to anyone who's considering a top notch turbo kit. I'm glad to see Full Race get serious about the Evo market, and wish them luck with everything. Now get to work on some BMW 335i stuff!
335i stuff is coming soon, we've been in touch with turbonetics as they have a test car we might be getting our hands on...
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Last edited by robertrinaustin; Jul 30, 2007 at 06:41 PM.
Your fuel pump almost certainly isn't keeping up with the demands of the E85, as you shouldn't be at the end of those injectors. When the fuel pump falls short, rail pressure drops, and an unusually large IDC is required to make things work. A large turbo and E85 is definitely dual pump territory.
robertinustin, it sounds like you've got a Walbro GSS317 instead of a GSS342 ...
either that or something is wrong with your fuel system
maybe it's time for a Buschur HO pump?
either that or something is wrong with your fuel system
maybe it's time for a Buschur HO pump?
Last edited by jbrown; Jul 31, 2007 at 08:10 AM.
There's nothing wrong with the pump. The problem stems from the fact that any E85 application demands more fuel volume than gasoline. This makes the pump reach its limits quicker than with gasoline.
Your fuel pump almost certainly isn't keeping up with the demands of the E85, as you shouldn't be at the end of those injectors. When the fuel pump falls short, rail pressure drops, and an unusually large IDC is required to make things work. A large turbo and E85 is definitely dual pump territory.
as soon as its on the car and running. We are working to have it ready for the 3rd week of august. We will not disappoint... never have, never will.
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Anyone think Full-Race could dig deeper into the 8s with their twinscroll setups? I think they have a chance when the 42r is released. I can't wait to see the dyno sheets on this setup.
IDT twin-scroll will make an impact on the drag-racing scene. The benefits of twin-scroll do not translate into better top-end power, which is really what you want for drag racing.
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