Full-race's new toys
I remember reading that article and then going to look for divided turbocharger only to find that the only divided turbos were "HUGE" T4 turbochargers... Fast forward to today and thinking a T4 is "HUGE" makes me smirk a little.
Toyota took advantage of the twin entry turbo back in '90 with the Toyota MR2. Unfortunately, the MR2 suffered from poor engine management once modified and a lack of good aftermarket support so the benefits of the twin inlet turbo setup on that car really weren't recognized.
it would do very well, its a very popular setup for our SR20DET customers, their engines respond very similarly to the 2.0L 4G63s. like Ted B said its very responsive and torquey, similar to a V8 with crazy top end. Good spool, low rpm power and SOLID midrange. a good stock bottom end street setup that would embarass almost anything else out there on the street (light to light type stuff)
larger than .78? There is a 1.06 twinscroll i have saved in my office but i am afraid to get rid of it in case i could never get another
larger than .78? There is a 1.06 twinscroll i have saved in my office but i am afraid to get rid of it in case i could never get another

What turbine wheel size fits your 1.06? I know they make 3 or 4 diffrent t3 wheels. Turbonetics used stages 3,4,5. I have a TS T4 P-trim 1.00 A/R turbine housing, with a v-band sitting in my shop...you think its rare? Think I might beable to use it if I go with one of your 35Rs?
What A/R are the SR20DET guys running with the 3067? What turbine wheel size fits your 1.06? I know they make 3 or 4 diffrent t3 wheels. Turbonetics used stages 3,4,5. I have a TS T4 P-trim 1.00 A/R turbine housing, with a v-band sitting in my shop...you think its rare? Think I might beable to use it if I go with one of your 35Rs?
The 1.06 i have is a gt30R. i have a pretty well known drifter who runs our twinscroll 30R kit on his drift car begging me for the hsg, so i might have to let it go, well see
if you have a p trim 1.00 turbine turbo that isnt rare, and it is pretty big. If you swapped a gt37R on there you would probably net some decent results, but a 1.00 is big for a p trim. remember a p trim is an 11 bladed turbine, not 10 blade like a GT.
You would be able to use a p trim with a gt35R compressor but it doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt recommend it

more info here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=182
The SR20DET guys all run the .78 A/R. In fact a Nissan Engineer at the plant in TN just bought a .78 A/R GT35R twinscroll kit for his SR20DET to test. I told him i think the .78 is too small but he is intent on proving me wrong, we'll see
The 1.06 i have is a gt30R. i have a pretty well known drifter who runs our twinscroll 30R kit on his drift car begging me for the hsg, so i might have to let it go, well see
if you have a p trim 1.00 turbine turbo that isnt rare, and it is pretty big. If you swapped a gt37R on there you would probably net some decent results, but a 1.00 is big for a p trim. remember a p trim is an 11 bladed turbine, not 10 blade like a GT.
You would be able to use a p trim with a gt35R compressor but it doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt recommend it
this is a pretty good example of what to expect

more info here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=182
The 1.06 i have is a gt30R. i have a pretty well known drifter who runs our twinscroll 30R kit on his drift car begging me for the hsg, so i might have to let it go, well see
if you have a p trim 1.00 turbine turbo that isnt rare, and it is pretty big. If you swapped a gt37R on there you would probably net some decent results, but a 1.00 is big for a p trim. remember a p trim is an 11 bladed turbine, not 10 blade like a GT.
You would be able to use a p trim with a gt35R compressor but it doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt recommend it
this is a pretty good example of what to expect

more info here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=182
Thanks for the insight. Im interested how the 1.06 A/R will do with the 30r TS setups......its hard to make a decision on the turbo setups
. The 30R TS setups look promising...but I would like to see them against the 35r T4 TS setups
I use to love reading the 15-20 page technical articles in SCC, then it seemed to go less technical and more "tuner" and I stopped reading.
I remember reading that article and then going to look for divided turbocharger only to find that the only divided turbos were "HUGE" T4 turbochargers... Fast forward to today and thinking a T4 is "HUGE" makes me smirk a little.
Toyota took advantage of the twin entry turbo back in '90 with the Toyota MR2. Unfortunately, the MR2 suffered from poor engine management once modified and a lack of good aftermarket support so the benefits of the twin inlet turbo setup on that car really weren't recognized.
I remember reading that article and then going to look for divided turbocharger only to find that the only divided turbos were "HUGE" T4 turbochargers... Fast forward to today and thinking a T4 is "HUGE" makes me smirk a little.
Toyota took advantage of the twin entry turbo back in '90 with the Toyota MR2. Unfortunately, the MR2 suffered from poor engine management once modified and a lack of good aftermarket support so the benefits of the twin inlet turbo setup on that car really weren't recognized.
The SR20DET guys all run the .78 A/R. In fact a Nissan Engineer at the plant in TN just bought a .78 A/R GT35R twinscroll kit for his SR20DET to test. I told him i think the .78 is too small but he is intent on proving me wrong, we'll see
The 1.06 i have is a gt30R. i have a pretty well known drifter who runs our twinscroll 30R kit on his drift car begging me for the hsg, so i might have to let it go, well see
if you have a p trim 1.00 turbine turbo that isnt rare, and it is pretty big. If you swapped a gt37R on there you would probably net some decent results, but a 1.00 is big for a p trim. remember a p trim is an 11 bladed turbine, not 10 blade like a GT.
You would be able to use a p trim with a gt35R compressor but it doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt recommend it
The 1.06 i have is a gt30R. i have a pretty well known drifter who runs our twinscroll 30R kit on his drift car begging me for the hsg, so i might have to let it go, well see
if you have a p trim 1.00 turbine turbo that isnt rare, and it is pretty big. If you swapped a gt37R on there you would probably net some decent results, but a 1.00 is big for a p trim. remember a p trim is an 11 bladed turbine, not 10 blade like a GT.
You would be able to use a p trim with a gt35R compressor but it doesnt make any sense, i wouldnt recommend it
I have been trying to get the drift guys into twin scrolls and bigger A/R's for awhile. I think the Enjiku guys might finaly be trying it.
Geoff, you might want to give the T350 wheels a try. A 76 trim in a divided TO4 housing flows more than a P trim, has 4 points more turbine effiecency and has 40 percent less inertia.
A T350 is commonly known as the Turbonetics stage V, pre F-1.
I was going to buy AMS 37r kit in the future, but after reading this thread, my mind is changing.
I have a couple questions for you geoff.
I am currently running an AMS front mount with their licp and uicp.
If I was to keep my current front mount and get your TS 40r without the intercooler, would I be able to modify the licp to fit the turbo?
Also, what size injectors would you recommend for 40r setup?
I am planning to use stock ecu/TS 40r/stock block for the moment.
In the future, it will be standalone/TS 40r/built 2.3L with meth/alky no race gas.
That being said, I don't want to have to switch injectors once I put them in.
I guess I am looking for something stock ecu will be able to handle and still support enough flow when I use meth later on with ~30 pounds of boost.
I have a couple questions for you geoff.
I am currently running an AMS front mount with their licp and uicp.
If I was to keep my current front mount and get your TS 40r without the intercooler, would I be able to modify the licp to fit the turbo?
Also, what size injectors would you recommend for 40r setup?
I am planning to use stock ecu/TS 40r/stock block for the moment.
In the future, it will be standalone/TS 40r/built 2.3L with meth/alky no race gas.
That being said, I don't want to have to switch injectors once I put them in.
I guess I am looking for something stock ecu will be able to handle and still support enough flow when I use meth later on with ~30 pounds of boost.
Hello, Full-Race Geoff, I'm in love with your work
I gonna have 2.2 Cossie stroker with full build Cossie Head & other supporting mods on my Evo8, planning to do everyday drive, circuit races & perhaps some drag racing.
What would be the best twinscroll setup for me 3076 or F1-35R or bigger?
If I use turbo bigger than 35R do I strictly have to use custom engine management?
I gonna have 2.2 Cossie stroker with full build Cossie Head & other supporting mods on my Evo8, planning to do everyday drive, circuit races & perhaps some drag racing.
What would be the best twinscroll setup for me 3076 or F1-35R or bigger?
If I use turbo bigger than 35R do I strictly have to use custom engine management?
I dont have any first hand experience with any of Full Race's products, but the pictures and testimonials should be enough to show their quality.
Anyway, I can tell you Geoff is probly the nicest and most knowledgable person I've ever dealt with. I had contacted him maybe 7-8 months ago about a turbo kit. He had mentioned the twin scroll 40r then, and basically said everything that's been mentioned in this thread. He was always very quick to respond to e-mails, and very helpful. I feel bad having not gone through with the project after he was so helpful with everything. I sold the Evo, but if Full Race has any plans to start developing parts for the 335i, I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from him.
A little off topic I know, but I wanted to share my experience with Geoff, and recommend Full Race to anyone who's considering a top notch turbo kit.
I'm glad to see Full Race get serious about the Evo market, and wish them luck with everything. Now get to work on some BMW 335i stuff!
Anyway, I can tell you Geoff is probly the nicest and most knowledgable person I've ever dealt with. I had contacted him maybe 7-8 months ago about a turbo kit. He had mentioned the twin scroll 40r then, and basically said everything that's been mentioned in this thread. He was always very quick to respond to e-mails, and very helpful. I feel bad having not gone through with the project after he was so helpful with everything. I sold the Evo, but if Full Race has any plans to start developing parts for the 335i, I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from him.
A little off topic I know, but I wanted to share my experience with Geoff, and recommend Full Race to anyone who's considering a top notch turbo kit.
I'm glad to see Full Race get serious about the Evo market, and wish them luck with everything. Now get to work on some BMW 335i stuff!
You will want at least 1000cc's, 1600cc's if you want to be safe. Running even 1000cc's on the stock ECU is not recommended. You might as well just go ahead and install the standalone when you install the turbo and the injectors. What's another $1500 when you are already spending $7k? You might as well do it right.






