Full-Race Twinscroll 35R
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Dan, I bet you'll love the 3076. Search for Drifto's twin scroll thread and see what he and Ted have to say about his car with a TS 3076.
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They are "baller" because, thus far, they require two gates and an expensive manifold. But when it comes down to it, the twin entry turbo setups flat out work better.
Quicker spool
Higher Volumetric efficiency throughout the RPM range
Better turbine efficiency
Lower exhaust back pressure
Besides the price tag, what's not to like?
I personally think the way to go about it is a single 60mm gate that has the port for the gate divided and sealed up to the valve. Kind of similar to the STOCK EVO "single flapper" turbo that was developed in rally racing where all out HP is JUST as important as turbo response.
One last little thought here, look at EVERY large frame GT series turbo. See anything in common? All divided entry turbochargers, despite the GT line being built SPECIFICALLY for high performance gasoline engines. Developed for Diesel engines or not, even a company with a multi-billion dollar research and development budget thinks that gas motors should be using the divided inlet turbochargers...
Well, I guess that wasn't my last thought, this is: too much beer makes me happy. "FOCKER OUT!"
Quicker spool
Higher Volumetric efficiency throughout the RPM range
Better turbine efficiency
Lower exhaust back pressure
Besides the price tag, what's not to like?
I personally think the way to go about it is a single 60mm gate that has the port for the gate divided and sealed up to the valve. Kind of similar to the STOCK EVO "single flapper" turbo that was developed in rally racing where all out HP is JUST as important as turbo response.
One last little thought here, look at EVERY large frame GT series turbo. See anything in common? All divided entry turbochargers, despite the GT line being built SPECIFICALLY for high performance gasoline engines. Developed for Diesel engines or not, even a company with a multi-billion dollar research and development budget thinks that gas motors should be using the divided inlet turbochargers...
Well, I guess that wasn't my last thought, this is: too much beer makes me happy. "FOCKER OUT!"
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--Arthur Schopenhauer
(i thought this to be an appropriate quote..)
We have been doing this full-time for 6 years. I personally went to engineering school for 5 years, solely with the intention of designing turbo components. There are 28 guys who work here, some of whom are degreed mechanical engineers, others that are some of the best welders/fabricators/machinists in this industry. Not once have we ever fallen short of our stated claims. Not with our supras, not with our hondas, not with our skylines, not with our subarus, not with our scions, not with our mazdas, and we are certainly not about to start disappointing with our evo kits
We HAVE done significant engineering testing, both on and off the dyno (more off the dyno than on). You may or may not agree with our testing procedures/methodologies or their validity, but we know what we're doing, and we know how twinscroll works. Im not here to BS, and we dont promote hype or the latest buzzwords. We are commited to providing the highest performing, best quality turbo components available, simple as that.
While i sort of agree with you, I have full confidence in Geoff. The man knows his **** and has answered every and any question i have asked him. I am a firm believe that when more of these kits come out we will see that, twin scroll setups are superior to single scroll. Hopefully Geoff will release some dyno sheets and info soon.
yeah hes on the .78
when it comes down to it, the twin entry turbo setups flat out work better... I personally think the way to go about it is a single 60mm gate that has the port for the gate divided and sealed up to the valve. Kind of similar to the STOCK EVO "single flapper" turbo that was developed in rally racing where all out HP is JUST as important as turbo response.
make sure you check us out at englishtown on August 25th!!
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Thanks Geoff for your replies. Really straight up honest answers. I don't think anyone here doubts the professionalism of full race given the content of your replies here on EvoM.
I'm still left wondering... if your kit is delivered to a customer car already, how is that you yourself have not slapped the thing on the dyno and posted a result?
I'm still left wondering... if your kit is delivered to a customer car already, how is that you yourself have not slapped the thing on the dyno and posted a result?
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Thanks Geoff for your replies. Really straight up honest answers. I don't think anyone here doubts the professionalism of full race given the content of your replies here on EvoM.
I'm still left wondering... if your kit is delivered to a customer car already, how is that you yourself have not slapped the thing on the dyno and posted a result?
I'm still left wondering... if your kit is delivered to a customer car already, how is that you yourself have not slapped the thing on the dyno and posted a result?
we just finished a supra build for Toyota North America. That car took so much time to finish that it unfortunately caused some of our other projects to run late. Our sole focus right now is getting these twinscroll evo kits 100% dialed so that we can offer an easy install and mindblowing performance.
thanks for your input, feel free to ask any other questions.