Engine: Evo Blew on first day (Help!)
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Why? Because this poor SOB starts a thread, clearly shows he knows nothing about these cars, and like a typical Evolution owner, you guys just start feeding him bull**** information about buying more expensive bull**** that won't help him at all. "LoLz, I blowed up my moder, I wuz racing dis STI SO I boozted it hardz, and **** come out my enjin. Helpz". And what do you guys do? "Yeah bro, I blew my engine last week, time for a Yokazuna 2.8L Stroker, wooo hooo" and "Put a 100mm turbo Yeah!" What a bunch of tards.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Ok, i am fairly new to the forum.
I just got my Evo yesterday, and not even 5 hours the car died.
No lie, i was stepping on it just a Little, what can you expect when an STI comes beside me trys to mess around.
I just got my Evo yesterday, and not even 5 hours the car died.
No lie, i was stepping on it just a Little, what can you expect when an STI comes beside me trys to mess around.
When ever i acceded it was making like a knock noise. I park the car at a parking lot and as soon as i push the clutch in the car shuts off.
And doesn't come back on, honestly doesn't even crank much.
And doesn't come back on, honestly doesn't even crank much.
So i called the dealer, and the came and picked it up. Found out it spun a bearing.
Well they called me just now and told me about it. and said they are going to rebuild the motor.....
Honestly i don't know if thats the smartest thing for them to do. I think it would be best if they replace it completely. .....
Because i think... if the bearing spun, then the rod bore might be messed up or the Crank
So then they will have to replace the rods, and if they do that then they will have to take the pistons out..
and if they do that then they might as well replace the pistons as well and the rings.. which means then the block will have to be honed.
Well they called me just now and told me about it. and said they are going to rebuild the motor.....
Honestly i don't know if thats the smartest thing for them to do. I think it would be best if they replace it completely. .....
Because i think... if the bearing spun, then the rod bore might be messed up or the Crank
So then they will have to replace the rods, and if they do that then they will have to take the pistons out..
and if they do that then they might as well replace the pistons as well and the rings.. which means then the block will have to be honed.
I am a Nissan guy, so i don't know much about mitsu.. YET !!!!
And thats what i am here to find out, what do you think?
And thats what i am here to find out, what do you think?
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This guy doesn't seem very nice...
Ill be truthful i don't know much about the 4G63 but thats why i am on here, to learn.
There was a time where you didn't know **** about Mitsubishi's or cars in general..
You fuc*ing expect every one to know every thing about these cars ?
I could really do with out your negative comments.
I am the last person to start Sh*t with any one on a forum,
but there are just people that think they are better then every one else.
I made this tread to get people opinions and advice, not for you or any one else to start talking Sh*t.
Tom
Ill be truthful i don't know much about the 4G63 but thats why i am on here, to learn.
There was a time where you didn't know **** about Mitsubishi's or cars in general..
You fuc*ing expect every one to know every thing about these cars ?
I could really do with out your negative comments.
I am the last person to start Sh*t with any one on a forum,
but there are just people that think they are better then every one else.
I made this tread to get people opinions and advice, not for you or any one else to start talking Sh*t.
Tom
Why? Because this poor SOB starts a thread, clearly shows he knows nothing about these cars, and like a typical Evolution owner, you guys just start feeding him bull**** information about buying more expensive bull**** that won't help him at all. "LoLz, I blowed up my moder, I wuz racing dis STI SO I boozted it hardz, and **** come out my enjin. Helpz". And what do you guys do? "Yeah bro, I blew my engine last week, time for a Yokazuna 2.8L Stroker, wooo hooo" and "Put a 100mm turbo Yeah!" What a bunch of tards.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
With an attitude like that, you are not gona be around here long newbie. Calm down. Nothing wrong with adding a 2.3 if the cost is covered, a 2.3 on a stock turbo is VERY fun.
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Right now i am just coming up with the list of other parts the shop will have to get.
especially sine the motor spun a bearing.
Oil pump
Oil Cooler
etc..
we will probably go with a Cometic head gasket and ARP head bolts
especially sine the motor spun a bearing.
Oil pump
Oil Cooler
etc..
we will probably go with a Cometic head gasket and ARP head bolts
Why? Because this poor SOB starts a thread, clearly shows he knows nothing about these cars, and like a typical Evolution owner, you guys just start feeding him bull**** information about buying more expensive bull**** that won't help him at all. "LoLz, I blowed up my moder, I wuz racing dis STI SO I boozted it hardz, and **** come out my enjin. Helpz". And what do you guys do? "Yeah bro, I blew my engine last week, time for a Yokazuna 2.8L Stroker, wooo hooo" and "Put a 100mm turbo Yeah!" What a bunch of tards.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Who sh*t in this guy's cereal? If this guy's got a spun bearing, and he's getting a new block, there is nothing wrong with upgrading the internals. He'd be saving himself labor costs since the engine will be apart anyways. If there was alot of metal shavings in your oil make sure you get your oil cooler/lines replaced or flushed. You don't want any of that crap getting back in your NEW motor. I'm wondering if your block is still machineable since your bearings didn't look as bad as mine. Mine were shredded into chunks in the oil pan. My block couldn't be saved.
BTW, don't worry about TalonTuner4G63, he's obviously a little frustrated because he hasn't been getting any.
If you do stroke, be prepared for Insta-spool! Just know that strokers are very costly, you might have to pull more out of pocket than you think. You might also want to get it tuned before you start driving it around, just to be on the safe side. Stroked motors aren't to be reved as high either. Just something to think about. Best of luck to you.
Last edited by MIVEC8; Aug 3, 2007 at 06:15 AM.
Why? Because this poor SOB starts a thread, clearly shows he knows nothing about these cars, and like a typical Evolution owner, you guys just start feeding him bull**** information about buying more expensive bull**** that won't help him at all. "LoLz, I blowed up my moder, I wuz racing dis STI SO I boozted it hardz, and **** come out my enjin. Helpz". And what do you guys do? "Yeah bro, I blew my engine last week, time for a Yokazuna 2.8L Stroker, wooo hooo" and "Put a 100mm turbo Yeah!" What a bunch of tards.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Wow dude, You seem real tough talkin Sh** over a forum! I swear, there alwys has to be a hater. People are here to learn you dumb ***!!! Why don't you just go end your miserable life???!!!
Anyways, Good luck Tomtom!
I hope it all works out for you man!
Man!....your not alone here bro! Mine is still in the shop. I blew up my motor June 2nd not even boosting @ low RPM. You can check my rebuild engine in my signature. Good luck! Dont forget to put ARP Rod studs!
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I appreciate every ones comments, i am not worried about that talontuner dude.
I am pretty sure that my block will be fine. That's pretty much all that will be re-used.
Every thing else will be brand hew.
Here is the additional item's
OEM Oil pump + Front cover
OEM Oil Cooler + Lines
New Timing belt (Either Power Enterprise or similar)
New tensioner
Cometic Head gasket
ARP Head bolts
Balance Shaft Belt
Here is what comes with the JAM Short block.
*2.4 Forged Steel Crankshaft
*Wiseco forged pistons, 8.74-1 cr
*Oliver Billet Conn Rods w/ARP bolts
*ARP main studs
*ACL perf coated rod & main brgs
*ACL perf coated shaft brgs
They also do...
*Remove the block oilers, balance shaft brgs, galley plug and freeze plugs
*Your empty block is completely degreased
*Main bolt holes are bottom tapped
*Line bore specs are checked w/ARP main studs
*Deck surface is precision machined to RA50 finish or better
*The deck holes are bottom tapped for ARP head studs
*The cylinders are 4 step torque plate hone w/ARP studs
*Machine the block for stroker clearances
*File fit piston rings per cylinder
*The block is then thoroughly final washed
*The new rods & pistons are then pinfit
*The cleaned block oilers are then installed
*Install performance coated balance shaft brgs
*Install freeze plugs, galley, head to block dowels
*Clean, mike & polish balance shafts
*Your stroker shortblock is then asembled
I am pretty sure that my block will be fine. That's pretty much all that will be re-used.
Every thing else will be brand hew.
Here is the additional item's
OEM Oil pump + Front cover
OEM Oil Cooler + Lines
New Timing belt (Either Power Enterprise or similar)
New tensioner
Cometic Head gasket
ARP Head bolts
Balance Shaft Belt
Here is what comes with the JAM Short block.
*2.4 Forged Steel Crankshaft
*Wiseco forged pistons, 8.74-1 cr
*Oliver Billet Conn Rods w/ARP bolts
*ARP main studs
*ACL perf coated rod & main brgs
*ACL perf coated shaft brgs
They also do...
*Remove the block oilers, balance shaft brgs, galley plug and freeze plugs
*Your empty block is completely degreased
*Main bolt holes are bottom tapped
*Line bore specs are checked w/ARP main studs
*Deck surface is precision machined to RA50 finish or better
*The deck holes are bottom tapped for ARP head studs
*The cylinders are 4 step torque plate hone w/ARP studs
*Machine the block for stroker clearances
*File fit piston rings per cylinder
*The block is then thoroughly final washed
*The new rods & pistons are then pinfit
*The cleaned block oilers are then installed
*Install performance coated balance shaft brgs
*Install freeze plugs, galley, head to block dowels
*Clean, mike & polish balance shafts
*Your stroker shortblock is then asembled
Last edited by TomTomTuning; Aug 3, 2007 at 07:22 AM.
Why? Because this poor SOB starts a thread, clearly shows he knows nothing about these cars, and like a typical Evolution owner, you guys just start feeding him bull**** information about buying more expensive bull**** that won't help him at all. "LoLz, I blowed up my moder, I wuz racing dis STI SO I boozted it hardz, and **** come out my enjin. Helpz". And what do you guys do? "Yeah bro, I blew my engine last week, time for a Yokazuna 2.8L Stroker, wooo hooo" and "Put a 100mm turbo Yeah!" What a bunch of tards.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Well, first off, don't race a car if you can't drive it, nor do you understand anything about it.
So, it' dosn't crank MUCH, or at all?
What is a rod bore, exactly? And isn't the task of rebuilding an engine usualy accompanied by breaking down the entire engine, including rotating assembly? Do you know how an engine works? Have you seen what the inside of a 4G63 looks like? Have any of you? Do you know what is actually involved in rebuilding an engine, or an engine overhaul?
It's pretty simple, actually. Nissan makes internal combustion engines, just like Mitsubishi. They have blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, main and rod bearings, all of which will end up in pieces on the ground when in the right hands. Please pick up a book, shop manual, or somthing, and start reading, and don't listen to 70% of the people on here, especialy if they tell you to solve your problems with more bull**** parts.
Jesus Christ, why are you jumping down this guys throat so much? The guy may not know much about cars but he bought an evo and it blew up in 5 hours and since its going to cost almost the same he wants to buy a built motor. Whats wrong with that?
If you do stroke, be prepared for Insta-spool! Just know that strokers are very costly, you might have to pull more out of pocket than you think. You might also want to get it tuned before you start driving it around, just to be on the safe side. Stroked motors aren't to be reved as high either. Just something to think about. Best of luck to you.