I would say Full race for top notch. Twin Scroll and Robotic Tig welding, nobody offers that.

For 2nd? I would say its a Tie for the Buschu/Shearer and ETS kits as they are both capable and both offer the Tubular Manifolds.

3rd the Caste manifold Buschur 35R on price alone, so cheap and you get so much

Rounding 4th is AMS< great stuff but god damn so much money, for the price of the AMS 35R you can have the Buschur 35R/FMIC/Injectors and still have cas left over.

 

Tom, no, seriously I was confused, I thought a few pages back you said you use only the 44mm gate, I was not ball busting or being sarcastic, that is why I was puzzled with the flange on the first header picture. Sorry, I seriously must have misread it. I am going to go back and attempt to find it.

Seriously, I was not being sarcastic. My apologies.

 

I found it, it's actually post #78 and it wasn't you, Tom, that said it, it was Paul (ifarted). See, I wasn't being a dick, I knew I read it and then was confused by both the pictures you posted It just wasn't you that said it.

Since I have my thoughts straight now I will comment that I do NOT agree that a 38 mm gate is enough to control boost low enough for pump gas on all cars. I disagree 100% actually as I have had way to many boost creep with the 38 mm gate.

It's all good, we all have our thoughts and ways of doing things.

 

I think there are a few others that disagree with you, most notably AMS. Unless of course, they've recently changed over to a 44. They seem to have a good handle on managing boost creep with a 38. I don't know who's faster, but I think they are quicker, so they qualify as someone you've said you're willing to learn from.

 

ahhh something else good to know. Thank You Dave for putting that one on that the 38mm is to small and get the 44 for 35R. I personally didnt know and ive seen a few its i was looking at with the 38. Ill have to look back at them to see which ones they were.

 

I have to agree with you, Dave, if we are picking sides.

You guys do realize he is being very specific in what he is saying.
That the 38mm gate is simply not effective at regulating low boost on the 35r.
If you were running higher boost levels it could possibly do the job.

If you want the best range of adjustment the obvious move is to switch to the 44mm. Which can handle low boost on this turbo, as well as high.

 

ETS offers the 35r kit with 44mm Tial. All 3 i have seen have been with 44mm. Most Kits i see with the Tial 38 are 50 trims and 57 trims which is more than enough

 

well duh!ams hasnt made pistons or rods...BUT what i was saying was that you can go on there site and build a full complete set up(motor,head,cams(BR),fuel,intake manifold,turbo,intercooler,piping etc)

most other companys just offer a turbo set up

such as im speaking with david right now and i can basically build a 10sec 500+awhp car on just straigh 92 octane all from him..other thing that isnt BR is the pistons/rods etc...the cams,intercooler,intake manifold,etc etc is all BR

 

Yet you have a JAM setup in your sig.


Now I know why Dave pulls his hair out.

 

cams arent BR either.

 

Truth is, there are too many vendors out there that make such great product. I love them all and wish the cars could run them all. We should be appreciative it is this way in the Evo community. But if you want your car to run like a sewing machine, Buschur.

 

Actually they DO have their own custom ground cams: the BF 272 Evo 8 Cam

 

robertinaustin, as I said: "I disagree 100% actually as I have had way to many boost creep with the 38 mm gate." Thank you for your input. I have nothing to learn in this area. As the saying goes, "Been there, done that."

 

Ill take you advice as a shop owner personally rather than just a fellow evo owner. Im think about it people why try and argue with him all he is saying is that in his own experience he has had no luck with the 38 and doesnt trust it.

 

If we're down to wastegates I'm good with that Our honest experience, as has been that of many others in the industry, is that the 38mm wastegate does a fantastic job controlling boost even on large(r) setups.

That aside, if I have a customer interested in running less than 25psi regularly, I am definitely not recommending a 35R. There are turbos that will offer a superior powerband in that boost range, which is why we offer five turbochargers smaller than a 35R in our T3 platform, to fine tune the turbo kit for the best possible performance in a given application.

A big wastegate is needed most when trying to get boost way down low (bleed off tons of exhaust gas through a big valve). We don't typically have customers wanting to run 35Rs at lower than stock boost, which is reasonable because that just doesn't make sense. I can easily understand a big wastegate on a stock motor Civic trying to make 7psi consistently on a large turbo because that's a lot of extra exhaust needing to escape. On an EVO, that just doesn't compute.

I concur that we'll agree to disagree on this one.

Tom