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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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HELP! running spacer/different offset can break diff!!???

hey there, i just got my rims 18x9.5 nto3+ i'm planning on running 15mm kics spacer in front. well when i went to my local perf. shop (pannauto) to pick up the spacer. they told me if i run just the front spacers and no rear spacer; i can pretty much mess up my diff in a short period of time! they said that i'm putting to much stress in the front wheels and not the back, basically its not proportional and will mess it up sooner or later. so is it true? can i really mess it up in just a few months?

they sound very serious and i really want to believe what they said but i want to know from other members who had these wheel setup to shim in on this. much help is appreciated. thanks in advance
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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I'm in for answers as well.

*I'm running 5mm spacers in the rear and not the front.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Run them and disprove all the hearsay. Many time attack cars (CyberEvo, TB02) run ginormagantuine offsetts. Then again they have huge budgets for diffs.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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help me out guys, this scaring the shiznit out of me and don't want to ruin my diff in 10k miles of driving on this setup. any of you guys that are running nt03+m or any identical 18x9.5 w/spacers can leave some feedbacks would help.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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I cant percive of any issues on widening your track in the front and not the rear. Are all 4 tires the same dia.? Well maybe when you would turn, the difference in track width would speed up the fronts just alittle more than rear, being wider the outside tire on the front would have to spin a shade faster than if it macthed the rear track width. But would take probly a couple years to wear anything out. Hope that makes sense. Are you going to track the car? Cause 15mm (.590) is alot of extra stud sticking out, even with hubcentric rings. More length means easier shear effect.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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By using spacers you will move the center point of the rim outwards and it will put more stress on the front spindle bearings. I dont see it ruining the T-case or tranny though becuase all the wheels are the same diameter. I also wouldnt take advice from Pann since they had to quit doing installs and tuning because their work was questionable.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cpoevo
By using spacers you will move the center point of the rim outwards and it will put more stress on the front spindle bearings. I dont see it ruining the T-case or tranny though becuase all the wheels are the same diameter. I also wouldnt take advice from Pann since they had to quit doing installs and tuning because their work was questionable.

yeah, thats why i wanted to see what you guys think about the whole ****nanagan when they told me that a few of their customer had a problem on the diff and tried to sue them for it due to running single set of spacer, offset, or diff tire size. i got really scared of running spacers and thinnking of giving up trying to run 9.5 size rims. anyways i would like more feedbacks from others who has this setup and the longivity of their drivetrain. thanks for all the feedbacks so far.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cpoevo
By using spacers you will move the center point of the rim outwards and it will put more stress on the front spindle bearings. I dont see it ruining the T-case or tranny though becuase all the wheels are the same diameter. I also wouldnt take advice from Pann since they had to quit doing installs and tuning because their work was questionable.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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huh?!?!?!?!?!!
ive been running a 20mm spacer for a year now
no problems ever
looks like someone has no idea what they are talking about
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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anyone else cam shed so,e light on this thread? thanks
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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I could understand how that'd be true if we had locked differentials that were designed to give under a certain turning radius, but spacing a wheel only puts extra wear on your hub assmbly/spindle.

If you increase the radius of one of the tires it will eventually cause damage.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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well many track guys are running the wider front track setup without any issues...I for one havent had any either...and many people here are running the staggered offsets....no issues from what ive found out....Ive even run my OEM BBSs with the front spacer and had no problems
just do it already
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Robispec runs spacers all the time. Call him if you want hard data on any adverse effects. I suspect you'll find none.

Ask the shop that told you that to explain in a mechanical engineeering way why they claim that spacers cause that effect. Report back and maybe we can all have a good laugh.
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 10:34 AM
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my diff went bad

i put spacer on rear only.

about 8 months later rear diff blew....no idea why...so i took off my spacer.
was never told it was a factor, but hmmm
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Boogie12
i put spacer on rear only.

about 8 months later rear diff blew....no idea why...so i took off my spacer.
was never told it was a factor, but hmmm
It has nothing to do with the spacers, just bad luck. Spacers don't hurt the diffs, people have been doing this for years.
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