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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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have someone else or have a shop check the install, sounds like the timing is off
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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for the love of god... if you are going to comment, read the damn thread first... not just the first few posts.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by brokeazzlos
You dont have to pull the head off if you have the right tools.
A hammer and a socket are not the right tools.
I have done many with the head on the car and never
had a problem.
Elighten me. I didn't think you could get a compressor on it.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Jason, I am sure you have already gone through this but I would try at least 3 different MIVEC maps to see if anything changes. Try stock, RS, My S1 and my Cossie or any combination thereof. I am sure this isnt the problem but humor a short bald man.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Jason, I am sure you have already gone through this but I would try at least 3 different MIVEC maps to see if anything changes. Try stock, RS, My S1 and my Cossie or any combination thereof. I am sure this isnt the problem but humor a short bald man.
thanks JB, thats what i thought as well....

i tried your S1, your cosi, my cosi, the stock ix mivec map, another version of the stock ix mivec map that i wanted to try the next time on the dyno, ttp's mivec map and ams's mivec map LOL...... I think i have touched just about all of the reliable mivec sources i know of and have and still with no luck . i've pretty much ruled out anything from the tuning aspect of things. I have tried all of my tricks and there are no changes. I know it is mechanical, i know it is not timing unless the physical make up of the cam is wrong and the lobes are off on the grind. Scott has tried other cams from this batch and they have all worked fine. So i think we are going to have to look into something else mechanical, but whatever it is, it isnt the obvious stuff, timing, triggers, connections etc.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by icantdrive75
With the right tools you DO have to. With a hammer and a socket I can see you not having to, but there's a chance you could lose a valve into the engine, then you'd have to pull out the head, or hammer a valve into a piston and bend it, then you're another $300 in the hole.

Pulling the head off isn't that hard. It's just expensive to get a shop to do it. Just pull the head off, get a large C clamp, and a deep socket. Put the socket on the retainer and the clamp on the socket and the head of the valve, then start tightening. Then the spring compresses without pushing down the valve and the locks should pop out. Then just do that 15 more times.
What are you talking about "a hammer and a socket" thanks Fred Flintstone. You've never heard of taking the cams off, compressing the cylinder, using a Dummy cam (a rod that I made out of an old cam) and a Valve Spring Compressor that I made also and taking them off like that. Guess not. Ask any old school v8 guy.......

I love forum mechanics
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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If you all think that old hammer and socket trick is wrong it is actually a marketed tool from Matco with magnets inside the receiver hole to catch the retainers. Although it is dinosaur tech.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CandCPerformanc
If you all think that old hammer and socket trick is wrong it is actually a marketed tool from Matco with magnets inside the receiver hole to catch the retainers. Although it is dinosaur tech.
trust me, he wasn't talking about that.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg130
trust me, he wasn't talking about that.

That's exactly what I was talking about. Why're you being a dick? You don't even know me, don't **** up this guys thread.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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lol...wow, slow down chief.

I was clarifying YOUR assumption, that from some reason we where goin to use the OLD bash a $2k head. Enough of that. Sorry to insult your intelligence, but from this entire thread, where did you get that comment?


BDW, e vol ix, bigric09 and myself started this thread.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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That's exactly what I was talking about. Why're you being a dick? You don't even know me, don't **** up this guys thread.
this sounded like a line from 8 mile
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bigric09
this sounded like a line from 8 mile

BOOYAKASHA!!

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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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talk about jacking threads
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Simplest Fix is to reverse the installation and put the stock cams back in.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ev0ikon
Simplest Fix is to reverse the installation and put the stock cams back in.
thats the plan
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