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[quote=DynoFlash;5054314] #3 - Buschur Racing was the one who fabricated and installed the Kansai intake manifold in my car
Since when did David Buschur build parts of behalf of HKS?????? Was there a merger that took place that we are unaware of?
Since when did David Buschur build parts of behalf of HKS?????? Was there a merger that took place that we are unaware of?
thebluesky,
I personally think you are out of line with Al but I know the entire story so being as you only know what you are reading I have to give you a break
Let me ask you this, do you agree that if this stuff happens from meth back fires, nitrous back fires or whatever else has been set forth as a "reason" for it that IF you did increase the strength of the intake manifold (say like running the stock one) that we should see other things fail? For example, if the intake was so strong it could blow apart, wouldn't you agree we should see the throttle plate bend or vacuum hoses/couplings blown apart with the stock intake? To me personally that makes perfect sense...........but I don't see that happen.
Also from a stand point of me being in the tuning business and tuning all kind of EVO's from all over I can tell you that the AMS intake is by far the one I see the most of.
I also want to make a point here. I am not bad mouthing Marco at all. I am not bad mouthing his intake. As a matter of fact I know he said he had a problem with the first ones he was building and he told me he was changing the design. I offered this as a reason in this thread atleast one other time. Marco did not address that, I don't know why. I figured the ones that had split were just old designs. I also don't want anyone to think I am intentionally pushing AMS's. I have not done any back to back testing of AMS's, but have done others. If someone needs an intake manifold on a build we are doing we do use/sell AMS's but 99% of the builds we do we do not recommend the intake manifold at all.
From what I have seen/tested the stock ported intake manifold with the 65 mm throttle body WILL make MUCH more low/mid range power AND more top end power than some sheetmetal intakes built. This held true for testing we did on the stock turbo and GT35R turbo. Al was there for one of those tests and that is what he was referring to in his post.
I am probably going to test two intake manifolds this winter on my RS. I have one coming from someone who contacted me and I think AMS is tossing one my way. For now that stock one sure looks good, cost very little and is proving to work awefully well.
I personally think you are out of line with Al but I know the entire story so being as you only know what you are reading I have to give you a break
Let me ask you this, do you agree that if this stuff happens from meth back fires, nitrous back fires or whatever else has been set forth as a "reason" for it that IF you did increase the strength of the intake manifold (say like running the stock one) that we should see other things fail? For example, if the intake was so strong it could blow apart, wouldn't you agree we should see the throttle plate bend or vacuum hoses/couplings blown apart with the stock intake? To me personally that makes perfect sense...........but I don't see that happen.
Also from a stand point of me being in the tuning business and tuning all kind of EVO's from all over I can tell you that the AMS intake is by far the one I see the most of.
I also want to make a point here. I am not bad mouthing Marco at all. I am not bad mouthing his intake. As a matter of fact I know he said he had a problem with the first ones he was building and he told me he was changing the design. I offered this as a reason in this thread atleast one other time. Marco did not address that, I don't know why. I figured the ones that had split were just old designs. I also don't want anyone to think I am intentionally pushing AMS's. I have not done any back to back testing of AMS's, but have done others. If someone needs an intake manifold on a build we are doing we do use/sell AMS's but 99% of the builds we do we do not recommend the intake manifold at all.
From what I have seen/tested the stock ported intake manifold with the 65 mm throttle body WILL make MUCH more low/mid range power AND more top end power than some sheetmetal intakes built. This held true for testing we did on the stock turbo and GT35R turbo. Al was there for one of those tests and that is what he was referring to in his post.
I am probably going to test two intake manifolds this winter on my RS. I have one coming from someone who contacted me and I think AMS is tossing one my way. For now that stock one sure looks good, cost very little and is proving to work awefully well.
In answer to your question to me though, yes, I do agree that we should see other damage, including what you had mentioned. Although I have yet to work on nearly a 10th of the cars you have worked on, I have seen a couple of occurrences of a bent throttle plate under nitrous. Just to clarify though, are you saying you've never seen it happen or see it very rarely? Bear in mind, I only do this as a hobby and not really as a living sans occasionally paying college bills.
I could even also agree that a stronger grade aluminum may help alleviate some of this carnage, but I can still see the possibility of it happening even then.
Hey thanks AL.
shep blew up our first one...we built him another and he had another methanol back fire and it did not break...the plenum just ballooned. I think i can count on one hand how many manifolds that i know of have cracked, and the ones that have cracked have been because of poor welds or someone not following the proper assembly procedure. Either way they get fixed for free. We've had the same one on our time attack car since it was built and have had no issues.
shep blew up our first one...we built him another and he had another methanol back fire and it did not break...the plenum just ballooned. I think i can count on one hand how many manifolds that i know of have cracked, and the ones that have cracked have been because of poor welds or someone not following the proper assembly procedure. Either way they get fixed for free. We've had the same one on our time attack car since it was built and have had no issues.
[QUOTE=thebluesky;5061705]Fabricated the 3.5" fmic pipe - G45 TB install and provisions for throttle cable etc - sorry for the confusion
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