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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Question ACT clutch disengagment problems HELP what 2 adjust

I made the thread found here about using the stock mitsu disc with ACT HDSS PP: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=309588

about using the HDSS pressure plate with a stock mitsu disc. So i put in the authentic mitsu disc with the used HDSS pressure plate that i used with my 6 puck disc that i didnt like. Anyway i finally got it all back together, started the car, and it wont go into gear at all. First thing i thought was damn time to adjust the pedal. I adjusted the pedal out until theres only about 1-2 threads left on it so it has almost maxed the travel out on it. Started it again, still nothing. It acts like im not even pushing the clutch at all cause its complete lockout. Which to me signifies that the clutch is not releasing for some reason. Sense the pedal is almost all the way out and theres still not a hint of being able to put the gear in, i thought the worst. Thought i may have had a malfunction with the locking ring thing that the TOB hooks to.

So i ended up jacking the car up, removing the inspection cover on the bottom of the trans and using my sony camcorder with niteshot to view inside as i had my wife press the pedal to the floor and let out over and over. I then noted that everything seems to be doing its job fine as it should, so im not sure where to go from here.

Here is the video i took of the clutch "release"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u5mkDP_3u0

So i think i remember reading something about theres another adjustment somewhere on the master that you can turn instead of the pedal? Also i still have the restrictor in aswell as the stock clutch line which hasent been a problem in the past. The fluid has a good 30K on it so its kinda old but i dont see that causing this much trouble with engagment.

Please let me know any thoughts on this and any remedys that i might try as im really fed up with this tranny dropping bs lol. This is my 3rd time dropping the trans in 2 months and man does that kill your body only having jack stands. Thanks

-Ryan
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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If there is no other adjustments than the pedal then i think i might try installing a SS clutch line, bleed the hell out of the line aswell as remove the restrictor and max out pedal travel.

Anyone know anything about the "extended clutch rod" from lancershop? ive seen a few others say how its actually shorter than the stock unit.

Also is it possable to have the slave "cockeyed" i wouldnt think so because of it having two bolts but it was a chore putting it back on and idk if the rod was straight the whole time.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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before work bump
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:17 AM
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The Rod extender is a joke, I had it, and it doesn't do anything. Save your cash. Contact ACTman on here, he is very helpful. Good luck.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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The flywheel was probably not resurfaced and it's causing the disk to hang up. That, or the pressure plate is not flat anymore from being used with a puck disk and that's your problem.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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ugh, i really dont want to drop the trans a 4th time! The flywheel was resurfaced before the 6 puck but not after. I only used the 6 puck for less than 1K miles, so i didnt have it resurfaced again. As far as the pressure plate i used a flat piece of steel to try and check for any warpage and it seemed fine, basically no wear at all on it. When i get home from work im trying to bleed it, and maybe put a SS line on and see what happens from there. I pm'ed ACTman so we'll see what he has to say about it aswell. thanks guys
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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weird, to me i think the tob isnt connected correctly cause mine gets pinched completely when its disengauged


Ohhh man did you put the fork in backwards lol?
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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no i didnt even touch the fork, i changed the clutch less than 1K ago and that was fine.

Something very intresting happened... I took my slave off to try to see if maybe i only partially engaged the TOB and it made a noise when i tried again so that may have been it BUT the most intresting part is.. now the rod on my slave is stuck in the out position!! i mean stuck i was jacking on it and nothing, it will NOT compress in the least so maybe that was the problem after all.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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ok so an update, the slave deal was fixed. All it needed was the pedal readjusted to get fluid back into the master.

So i released and reattached the TOB to the pressure plate for kicks and its still not working in the least! So i guess it looks like im going to have to go back to a stock pressure plate because i need the car this weekend no matter what and i dont have time to wait on a new clutch to arrive. Ugh this really pisses me off.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Sense it doesnt even come close to letting me put it in gears with the pedal maxed i assume the stock POS disc is just too fat for its liking. What else is my options here without dropping the trans again? i will if i have to but seriously wtf
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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well seems like im talking to myself here but anyway... who thinks that if i buy a ACT street disc and overnight it that ill be good to go? i was warned the stock disc may be too thick and now look im SOL...
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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It sounds like you have two choices, get a new stock pressure plate, or pull the ACT out of the car and have it checked along with the flywheel. If both check out you can get a new ACT disc but you'll still probably have to adjust the rod since you've been messing around with it so who knows where it engages.
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 05:16 AM
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Well as long as it engauges somwhere ill be happy. I just want to drive my car again. I ended up ordering a new ACT street disc overnighted for a retarted price. Dropping the trans tonight recieving the clutch in the AM tomorrow and installing/testing thursday night into friday. Hopfully all will check out and ill be able to drive it the 300mile trip that it needs to go saturday. Im crossing my fingers
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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dam bro that sux but on you first thread i think act told you it will be a nightmare to adjust.....you will be fine with street disk you will love it!
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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yes he did say that but i figured it would at least be able to work alright. Im sure everything will be great once i get the new ACT disc in there finally but its going to be hell again dropping the trans for like the 5th time!
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