Typical response from you, Dave. Tell me what outrunning Jeff has to do with breather hoses on turbo intake pipes, fuel trims, and closed loop tuning. Not everyone cares about being the fastest in the world, Dave. You just don't seem to grasp that concept very well.

If you have an issue with me, send me a PM. I didn't have the issue with you...my issue was with Jeff adding his two cents to 90% of the threads he posts in about how much he loves you. I guess this thread was the one that broke the camel's back. Maybe you can rent him a room in your garage or something so he can be with you 24/7 and he won't clutter so many threads on this forum.

And about breather hoses on the intake pipe: since you said NOT TO LISTEN to me, let me educate people on why you should have it connected on our MAF based cars:

If you add a breather filter to the valve cover and keep the stock MAF setup, then you are letting unmetered air through the breather filter, under the valve cover, through the PCV valve and into the intake. Obviously, this is only going to affect closed loop operation where there is enough vacuum in the intake manifold to open the PCV vavle. While this has no effect 'on running 10s and beating Jeff's car', it has a big effect on closed loop fuel trims and their effects on properly tuning the latency and scaling of injectors. Not only can it affect your LTFT Lo and mid to be very positive, but depending on the state of tune, it can cause the lean codes that were mentioned in this thread in the first place. Also, very positive or negative LTFTs can cause issues in closed loop driving when transitioning from idle to cruise where the ECU switches it's use of LTFT Lo or LTFT mid. This can lead to stumbles or bucking or lean/rich conditions during the transitions. BTW, if you don't want the oil vapor condensing in your intercooler, simply install a catch can on the breather hose.

But then again, hey, if it doesn't affect you 'running 10s and beating Jeff's car' then I guess it doesn't really matter, right? Who cares about daily driviability of an Evo, right? Who cares about properly scaling and tuning injectors and properly scaling or tuning the MAF for perfect trims, right? None of that has anything to do with running 10's, so I guess it doesn't matter in your world. There is more to tuning that just WOT.


Thanks for your time,
Eric

 

My car ran perfect for DD

Sorry you can not tune for breather filter

 

I love your posts, Jeff. The intelligence is just oozing out of them. That fact that you said I can't tune for a breather filter proves my point once again.

I'm done in this thread.

 

i've heard evo's running aftermarket intake systems need a tune desperately

 

No need to take anything to PM's if you just keep running your mouth right here in public. FUDB.

You have one seriously tempermental POS if you think installing a filter on the breather of your EVO is going to cause it to run poorly. I think you better find the actual problem with your car, maybe it's the tooooooooner. Step away from the keyboard, call Al immediately and have him fix your POS.

 

My car runs perfectly, thanks. I wouldn't let Al touch my car with a 10 foot pole, buddy. His tunes have been exposed numerous times for the pieces of crap that they are. I've never seen such ****ty tunes from a professional tuner like the ones I have seen from Al. Does a 'sea of 8's' ring any bells with you on his tunes? Does adding new injectors and intakes without even scaling the injectors or maf scaling ring a bell?

I was waiting when you would bring Al into the picture. Maybe that's why you're so confused when someone actually has a problem with one of your parts or one of Al's tunes...you don't really design or tune them correctly in the first place.

It's actually great that you make posts like this so the community can see the type of person that you really are and your true knowledge of stock ECU tuning and MAF based systems. Maybe you can re-read what I wrote again about the breather hose. I didn't say your car will run poorly...I said that it 'it has a big effect on closed loop fuel trims and their effects on properly tuning the latency and scaling of injectors'. It CAN cause problems that are easily logged and have been verified numerous times. Although since you just recommended Al for a tune, I see where you don't really grasp that concept. If you TRULY disagree with the statements that I made about this concept, then you don't give a **** about the people on this board and just want to sell them parts with no regard to anything but your profit. I even had someone PM me about this filter in fact that they bought from you and it fell apart and you woudln't even replace it. Come on man. These are $12 on Ebay, you charge $80, then you won't even help one of YOUR customers when 'your' part fails.

Just keep designing turbo intake pipes with no breather hose connections and ICs that has the airflow hit a 90* wall coming into it. The engineering and intelligence in your designs are amazaing.

 

ROFL

 

This shows the typical response of 'most' of the Bushcur fan boys. Instead of adding something techincal to the discussion, they just choose to get on their knees.

Thanks for the insightful comment, lilrico. I see your reading comprehension isn't that good either.

 

And most of your responses show how ignorant you are by talking about everyone getting on their knee's and what not.

Just because you have an opinion about a person / shop doesnt mean everyone HAS to see things your way or they're wrong.

Stop being a tool because you dont look any better than anyone else who's in here right now. You do realize you can leave this thread at anytime and free yourself from the "stupidity" thats in it right?

If not just go up to the top and hit thread tools, click unsubscribe and you can be on your merry way away from all of us dumb folks.

Man I love the intranetz!

 

l2r99gst, I have found all your threads and contributions in the EcuFlash forum very helpful and informative. You know, as well as I do, that you are just going to have to deal with people flaming you in this thread. They don't understand the point you are trying to make.

 

Insightful comment... WTF is that? ^^^^ That's an insightful comment to me......

You must have very little to do if all you do is hit the refresh button and waste your time replying for a lost cause. You don't know me and I didn't say anything directly to you but yet you come on this forum and talk about my reading comprehension and me getting on my knees.. Who do you have me confused with??? I'm not your mother, so I suggest you relax a little bit and take what comes on the forums a little lighter and with a grain of salt.... You'll live longer have a better blood pressure .

I read what you wrote, I read what others wrote and I still think his issue has to be with the install or a bad sensor. I hear what you said and where you're coming from, but I still stand where I'm at.. So don't get upset if you see other Buschur people coming on here and saying something because in all reality, no one gets on their knees, they have something called respect, older and mature people have that. When you break a few records and set some standards for the 4G63 community that change around many things, then you might have fans, or how you put it "people on their knees" as you have proven yourself and your product. Until then, you're nothing more then a EVOm member that if I would see every day on the street I wouldn't give a **** for. People like David, Shep, Magnus, AMS, AL, etc etc. I would give a hand too and I do when I meet them. It's those people who make our **** faster so we don't get our asses rapped by Honda’s, so give them credit.

-Good day to you..

 

Jarrod,

I planned on leaving this thread long ago, but then David comes in here and starts blatantly lieing about truthful information that I am giving to the community to truly help people understand certain concepts. Then he starts talking about my tune, when it wasn't even brought up??? Should I just sit on my hands and let it go?

Mabye, maybe not. Maybe you are right and I will be a better man if I just ignore the 'stupid' comments. But, I have always had the helping attitude and have learned a lot from people over the years, even back using DSMLink. I have gained a lot of knowledge from very intelligent people and sometimes I choose to share that knowledge, whether or not it goes against your tuning/parts philosophy at Buschur racing. There was not one thing about the breather hose that was 'stupid' that I talked about. I understand why Buschur Racing chooses so adamantly to defind your parts, such as the intake without the breather hose connection, but you don't have to lie about what's going on in the ECU and how the system works.

If I did just step out of the thread right away, maybe a few people wouldnt' have learned some simple facts. So, should I have stepped out and let it go or should I have helped where I could? I don't know, Jarrod...that's a tough call.

But, at this point in time in this thread, you are right. There is no more to be gained or learned here, as it just has become a flaming war. I promise you that I will not reply again, even if David or some other fanboy comes in trying to insult me or spread more misinformation.


Thanks,
Eric

 

amen brother

 

Really cause I was always told that CrankCase vapors in the intake can cause false/poor wideband readings, and also drop accual octane level.

Also David offered to look at the filter and possibly send out a new filter "IF" it was defective... sounds like great customer service to me

But hay, you got a few swingers l2r99gst . Your doing good

 

LOL somehow I don't think we would get raped by Hondas anyway, but I certainly appreciate and respect ALL of the knowledge and wisdom of this community, which is why this is the first place I always look when my Evo is running strange.

Thanks all for helping me out with my issue.