**Stock Manifold porting debate**
Feb 20, 2008, 08:08 AM
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Everyone go for different setups and have a normal life than sittin in their cars. I love my car but I don't need to spend every minute in it.Agreed, which is why I don't need to do every little useless mod to go fast, I have a life outside my car. Alot of people get aftermarket manifolds and Im going for a different look at the moment.I can appriciate that, and even the best aftermarket manifolds for stock turbo are useless, I personally believe it has to do with the PR between the intake and exhaust I will have fun porting cause that is something I can do at the moment. I also appriciate that, its your car, and if you want to port match the turbo/manifold connection because you have time and want to work on the ride thats cool, its not going to hurt at all but power gains will be minimal if not negligible.
No hard feelings but I have reasons for my beliefs and my results have always backed them up. Have fun modding
Feb 20, 2008, 09:11 AM
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Numbers are numbers. You could go to a higher reading dyno and manipulate it to read higher. You just want to be able to say you have 400hp? What are you going to even do with the caR??
Feb 20, 2008, 09:24 AM
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Now to answer your question of what he wants to do that is very simple. he wants to build a 400hp car. That is the cars main goal. He is doing it for him.
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Feb 21, 2008, 10:48 AM
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what are the results
The intake porting yields more hp when teamed up with a 65mm TB. Your average gain on that is 15whp. Now a ported manifold can gain 10whp. I have logged it myself. I have probably ported around 30 manifolds by now. Some with smaller ports to match the head and some larger but on an axis shaped just like a velocity stack and that seemed to work out just fine. I in no way lost any power. I have also logged a ported stocker up to a megan manifold. I can make a ported stocker have larger walls then the megan. I spend that extra time. Not only gaining a little more hp but the ported stocker yields more torque.
I will be doing another logging session this sunday with 4WS and an 05 meth car. Porting his manifold and hotside. The DLL gives us a very good comparison of a before and after. Then retuning will give an even bigger gain. Should have a total of 3 graph comparisons.
I will be doing another logging session this sunday with 4WS and an 05 meth car. Porting his manifold and hotside. The DLL gives us a very good comparison of a before and after. Then retuning will give an even bigger gain. Should have a total of 3 graph comparisons.
Feb 22, 2008, 02:14 AM
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there happy? my SN is from experience. i drive my friends cars at the track, and i beat there PR/PB what ever u wanna call it. and fixed my sig for you. you got me in HP and ET, but when driving counts, i got you just like my SN says. lmfao.
edit : i know my personal 60' isnt the best but i got you. and my SN in my experience is still true, id love to set a record for you
edit : i know my personal 60' isnt the best but i got you. and my SN in my experience is still true, id love to set a record for you
Feb 22, 2008, 08:30 AM
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there happy? my SN is from experience. i drive my friends cars at the track, and i beat there PR/PB what ever u wanna call it. and fixed my sig for you. you got me in HP and ET, but when driving counts, i got you just like my SN says. lmfao.
edit : i know my personal 60' isnt the best but i got you. and my SN in my experience is still true, id love to set a record for you
edit : i know my personal 60' isnt the best but i got you. and my SN in my experience is still true, id love to set a record for you
Feb 22, 2008, 09:07 AM
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Just another comment: Last time on CBRD's Mustang dyno 8/31/07.. 285 whp-253Torque... Insulated and gold foiled Injen U/L I/C pipes-cone filter..Milltek Exhaust with Cat..$50.ebay wrapped headers..unwrapped/not coated 02 housing..Walbro and CB's tuning,everything else STOCK. (CHANGING) to..Ported/coated intake mani..ported T/B..Ported/coated stock exhaust mani...ported/coated 02..ported/coated hotside...I will post the results when it's done. Pete
Feb 22, 2008, 12:01 PM
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Your friend is an idiot. I dont know where people make this sh*t up anymore. Without head porting.. like... wtf?
Anyway, like others said, the ported stock manifold is good for some power, especially for the low cost. The ceramic coating wont give you additional power, but it will keep the manifold looking much nicer and corrosion free. The stock cast manifolds look very ugly without the coating so for the price, Id get it.
Anyway, like others said, the ported stock manifold is good for some power, especially for the low cost. The ceramic coating wont give you additional power, but it will keep the manifold looking much nicer and corrosion free. The stock cast manifolds look very ugly without the coating so for the price, Id get it.
