If the statments about the porsche brake apply to us.. Id be interested.
Pending on
-If the Brembos can take the abuse? If heat becomes a factor with them?
-Noise and how the performance compare to a high end pad and rotor?

 

Only problem with carbon ceramic on the street is if you don't regulary heat cycle them right they glaze and then don't work for ****. My dad has a few porsches, he has a 996 turbo with with carbon ceramic option and before he understood the process he was pissed because his car wouldn't stop for ***, he tried to take his car to the dealer and they explained its common among porsche owners. You have to heat cycle them properly to keep them fresh.

 

any updates?

 

No updates.

 

update?

 

Yes, actually. The carbon ceramic rotor probably won't happen because of cost/interest. It looks like there is going to be a single blade rotor built though from iron.

 

Oh man, this was right up my alley as I am done with my motor.

 

that's too bad, it was a good idea though...

 

There's still no carbon ceramic options available for evos? is this a silly thing to want or is it just a matter of time?

any expert opinions on this?

 

id be interested in a super light weight rear kit since AMS stopped making them. not in carbon though. LOL.

 

Too expensive. Not enough people will want to pay $2000 or more for rotors and pads when that can get you full BBK upgrades.

 

BBK kit also weighs 15lbs more then a stock setup. this thread was for the looney's wanting every ounce out of the car.

 

Yes lower waight= lower E.T.

 

Its not 'glaze' as the technical reasoning as known on iron setup. For CCM or CC you need a film layer of the pad deposit on the disk, this is what gives you the friction stopping power, so you need a specific heat cycle. There is specific cycle for street driving and also for track, its normally in the owners manual for vehicles which come equipped from factory, basically just a series of stops like normal burnishing but slightly more specific.

Porsche actually has developed (with supporting supplier) another material variant of CCM as PCCB, utilizes a different process to change the surface condition of the disk, quite interesting and also madly expensive.

Carbon disks also require specific types of pads, there are pads which can be used on carbon and iron, but not the other way around, your iron pad will not work on carbon disks (properly, never recommended).

There are only a few makers in the world for carbon disks for automotive, since the production volume is so low and also such a long process compared to iron, it makes them crazy expensive.

To scratch wjamyers itch, this type of setup being proposed is more parallel to the light weight drag brake setups, meaning its actually decreasing your vehicles brake capacity over stock as you don't need it in drag racing... you use parachutes. So its basically reducing your light weight setup even further. Heat would become an issue for series brake users based on the size of what is being proposed.

If you want to match or exceed the stock evo's brake capacity in terms of heat (for roadrace track), you wouldn't be able to utilize any of the stock corner anymore. Carbon does not have the heat capacity as iron, so the disk would have to be much larger and the pad would have to be much larger than stock, so you would need a different caliper as it could not accept either disk or pad needed for carbon. When designing a setup for carbon, if you can not give ample cooling, then the disk has to grow significantly... and just to clear any confusion, carbon disks can get much hotter than iron because of the material, but they can not 'absorb' the type of energy as an iron disk can, aka heat capacity.

Because what I do professionally, I have a decent understanding of CCM, PCCB, and CC disks.