Any results or times from the shoot out
!Don't forget my record
By Proccoevo and CFT
back on topic when is the Shootout?
Last edited by ProccoEVO; May 26, 2008 at 07:53 PM.
This is all pretty stupid.
I am getting pissed off again for nothing.
Here are the facts:
AMS is the quickest EVO 8, end of story, regardless of 8.56 or 8.71, quicker than we are.
Buschur Racing is the fastest, 172.74 mph and that was on IRS.
Curt Brown holds the ET record for a GT35r at 9.33.
David Buschur holds the MPH record for a HTA35r at 155.51 and Trent as the wheel man. THANKS TRENT!
The next thing that is going to happen is SOMEONE is going to go quicker and faster than all of those times. Who is it going to be? Nobody knows for sure.
At the end of the day two things are remembered, WHO IS THE QUICKEST AND WHO IS THE FASTEST.
At the end of the day I WANT TO BE REMEMBERED.
This fighting is pointless and is going to get all of nowhere. A few years ago someone asked "Who is going to have the fastest EVO?" My answer has not changed and is, "Who ever sticks with it the longest and spends the most money." It takes time and money mostly. Both of those will get you everything else you are looking for. You can find and hire talent with time, if you can afford it.
I was dead set against ever gutting an EVO and ruining a perfectly freaking awesome car. We had no choice as nobody said, "Well Buschur is the best because they can run 10.0 in a full weight EVO that can go on a road course with the a/c on." They said "TT (at that time) is the fastest", there was no statement like this, "TT is the fastest but it's a gutted POS that can only drag race." (not referring to their car as a POS, just making a point)
At the end of the day it's who is setting the record that is remembered.
We all better get to work.
I am getting pissed off again for nothing.
Here are the facts:
AMS is the quickest EVO 8, end of story, regardless of 8.56 or 8.71, quicker than we are.
Buschur Racing is the fastest, 172.74 mph and that was on IRS.
Curt Brown holds the ET record for a GT35r at 9.33.
David Buschur holds the MPH record for a HTA35r at 155.51 and Trent as the wheel man. THANKS TRENT!
The next thing that is going to happen is SOMEONE is going to go quicker and faster than all of those times. Who is it going to be? Nobody knows for sure.
At the end of the day two things are remembered, WHO IS THE QUICKEST AND WHO IS THE FASTEST.
At the end of the day I WANT TO BE REMEMBERED.
This fighting is pointless and is going to get all of nowhere. A few years ago someone asked "Who is going to have the fastest EVO?" My answer has not changed and is, "Who ever sticks with it the longest and spends the most money." It takes time and money mostly. Both of those will get you everything else you are looking for. You can find and hire talent with time, if you can afford it.
I was dead set against ever gutting an EVO and ruining a perfectly freaking awesome car. We had no choice as nobody said, "Well Buschur is the best because they can run 10.0 in a full weight EVO that can go on a road course with the a/c on." They said "TT (at that time) is the fastest", there was no statement like this, "TT is the fastest but it's a gutted POS that can only drag race." (not referring to their car as a POS, just making a point)
At the end of the day it's who is setting the record that is remembered.
We all better get to work.
Well said David and i hope this puts an end to this worthless bickering. I went to the Shoot out and enjoyed every bit of it. From the time i spent at buschur watching dyno sessions w/ big Al video taping and making us laugh. To the end of the event when i witness buschur's bad bish run 9.5@152 w/ a HTA35r got me excited.
Being a guy who is not biased to AMS or Buschur, i would say that both shops are equally good. And if i had an evo i would be happy to have either shop work on my evo.
With that said lets put a rest to rules to innovation. Let's face it buschur never said you cant do the same to your evo. I'm sure when buschur starts running faster with his new setup everyone else will follow. It's just the way things work in the real world.
I cant wait to see you get this car to running some fast times. It was a pleasure to meet you, trent, big al and the rest of your crew in Ohio for the weekend...I hope to be back in August....
9sec240, over the last few months you have shown me to be a whiney little panty waste.
I made a list of the cars that were "down". I actually made a point to bring up the fact that cars broke at the race. I didn't attempt to cover them up like the two engines that put rods through the block that Curt had from you guys. I can make a long list if you'd like this to get ugly, your crappy attitude and constant arguements and prods at me are long past humorous. Cars break, hiding it and lieing about it is one style, stepping up and fixing it is another. Remember the car we were suppose to get paid for taking the engine out of? Never got a dime, remember that one? How about the one from Cincinatti too? Don't talk about cars being down, it's part of racing. What's next, you gonna tell me your driver doesn't have ANY autocross experience? STFU.
I made a list of the cars that were "down". I actually made a point to bring up the fact that cars broke at the race. I didn't attempt to cover them up like the two engines that put rods through the block that Curt had from you guys. I can make a long list if you'd like this to get ugly, your crappy attitude and constant arguements and prods at me are long past humorous. Cars break, hiding it and lieing about it is one style, stepping up and fixing it is another. Remember the car we were suppose to get paid for taking the engine out of? Never got a dime, remember that one? How about the one from Cincinatti too? Don't talk about cars being down, it's part of racing. What's next, you gonna tell me your driver doesn't have ANY autocross experience? STFU.
Nobody has some "magic" formula that eliminates detonation, lifted heads, broken parts. You do the best with what you have and when something fails, you learn, improve and move on. You cant learn if you dont push the envelope.
As far as the cars you are talking about, I have no clue. I am stuck in the shop all day long working on cars. I have no say in the decisions made up front and usually have no knowledge of what is going on with a car once its back in the hands of the owner. I have also only been with AMS for a few years so maybe this dates me.
here's a nice pic so you can learn and take ideas

more info @
http://www.tunerzine.com/view_articl...out-revolution
and next turbo mag issue

more info @
http://www.tunerzine.com/view_articl...out-revolution
and next turbo mag issue
Ok I figured it out. How to make your car transformed from gutted out street car to ricer ready for show-n-shine for a magazine photoshoot.
Thank's for pointing that out! I must say the car had my vote for the show competition that day. The rims are what did it for sure!
Last edited by crispeed; May 26, 2008 at 08:02 PM.
Yes we did back up our 172 actually and within 10%, thank you very much.
Door skin or foreskin, I don't honestly care what blew off or got blown. You are so nasty and negative in this entire thread you got me pissed off and I am making stupid points that I honestly don't care about.
If you look at two EVO's one more cut up than the other, one with carbon doors and roof it is fairly simple to figure out which one is lighter. I do not care, I am making a point to show you that the points you are making about our car not being a real EVO anymore are stupid as hell.
The 8.56 was not even remotely close to being backed up, as a matter of fact if I remember correctly the best pass was in the 9.40's or slower. The car in the other lane, as I already said, ran an 8.42 and was a 10 second DSM. You have to admit, nothing to legit about that. I do give you full credit, absolutely as having the quickest EVO with the 8.7's and those were backed up beautifully by Eric the same day multiple times.
The point is if you are going to whine and cry and make excuses, throw rocks and insults be prepared to get some tossed back at you.
Actually, everyone please click the link in 9sec240's signature, there is a copy of the time slip and video of the pass.
The NY BADBISH has nothing to do with this discussion, he has run the car once. It's a customers car, I didn't suggest the doors or even like them for that matter. It does bring up a good point though, who cares what he did? The car is obviously fast and reliable, taking weight out of it may have been the smartest idea anyone could have had.
Door skin or foreskin, I don't honestly care what blew off or got blown. You are so nasty and negative in this entire thread you got me pissed off and I am making stupid points that I honestly don't care about.
If you look at two EVO's one more cut up than the other, one with carbon doors and roof it is fairly simple to figure out which one is lighter. I do not care, I am making a point to show you that the points you are making about our car not being a real EVO anymore are stupid as hell.
The 8.56 was not even remotely close to being backed up, as a matter of fact if I remember correctly the best pass was in the 9.40's or slower. The car in the other lane, as I already said, ran an 8.42 and was a 10 second DSM. You have to admit, nothing to legit about that. I do give you full credit, absolutely as having the quickest EVO with the 8.7's and those were backed up beautifully by Eric the same day multiple times.
The point is if you are going to whine and cry and make excuses, throw rocks and insults be prepared to get some tossed back at you.
Actually, everyone please click the link in 9sec240's signature, there is a copy of the time slip and video of the pass.
The NY BADBISH has nothing to do with this discussion, he has run the car once. It's a customers car, I didn't suggest the doors or even like them for that matter. It does bring up a good point though, who cares what he did? The car is obviously fast and reliable, taking weight out of it may have been the smartest idea anyone could have had.
Last edited by David Buschur; May 26, 2008 at 08:00 PM.
Yes, Procco, what is the point of your picture. What I see in it is a carbon fiber hood, half radiator, a turbo with no air cleaner and no air conditioning. That's a daily driver? Interesting. Let me shed some light on your car, running without an air cleaner is like screwing without a rubber, something is eventually going to make it up your pee hole and get you sick. I think your claim to a full weight EVO can now be tossed out the window along with daily driven. I don't see you driving that car in Florida daily delivering pizza's like it is in the picture. Nobody wants to see a sweaty/smelly pizza delivery boy dripping sweat on their pepperoni.
I forgot to ask, how do you put the license plate on that car? Looks like it would be impossible with the parachute mount right where it goes. Maybe you duct tape it to the back window?
The car looks great in the photo shoot, as a side note
Not a street car though.
I forgot to ask, how do you put the license plate on that car? Looks like it would be impossible with the parachute mount right where it goes. Maybe you duct tape it to the back window?
The car looks great in the photo shoot, as a side note
Not a street car though.
Last edited by David Buschur; May 26, 2008 at 08:11 PM.
David whats your simple answer to the request of the newest list
Fastest Evo list -------- Fastest PRO OUTLAW Evo
The NY BADBISH has nothing to do with this discussion, he has run the car once. It's a customers car, I didn't suggest the doors or even like them for that matter. It does bring up a good point though, who cares what he did? The car is obviously fast and reliable, taking weight out of it may have been the smartest idea anyone could have had.
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Fastest Evo list -------- Fastest PRO OUTLAW Evo
The NY BADBISH has nothing to do with this discussion, he has run the car once. It's a customers car, I didn't suggest the doors or even like them for that matter. It does bring up a good point though, who cares what he did? The car is obviously fast and reliable, taking weight out of it may have been the smartest idea anyone could have had.
Last edited by ProccoEVO; May 26, 2008 at 08:09 PM.
Yes, Procco, what is the point of your picture. What I see in it is a carbon fiber hood, half radiator, a turbo with no air cleaner and no air conditioning. That's a daily driver? Interesting. Let me shed some light on your car, running without an air cleaner is like screwing without a rubber, something is eventually going to make it up your pee hole and get you sick. I think your claim to a full weight EVO can now be tossed out the window along with daily driven. I don't see you driving that car in Florida daily delivering pizza's like it is in the picture. Nobody wants to see a sweaty/smelly pizza delivery boy dripping sweat on their pepperoni.
I forgot to mention the front mounted aluminum fuel cell and weldon pump, how far can you go on your deliveries with that 2 gallon cell? haha
I forgot to mention the front mounted aluminum fuel cell and weldon pump, how far can you go on your deliveries with that 2 gallon cell? haha
what you can't admit that we also have done something good?
Last edited by ProccoEVO; May 26, 2008 at 08:18 PM.
its 11pm and u guys are still crackin me up hahhaha i like this one
Yes, Procco, what is the point of your picture. What I see in it is a carbon fiber hood, half radiator, a turbo with no air cleaner and no air conditioning. That's a daily driver? Interesting. Let me shed some light on your car, running without an air cleaner is like screwing without a rubber, something is eventually going to make it up your pee hole and get you sick. I think your claim to a full weight EVO can now be tossed out the window along with daily driven. I don't see you driving that car in Florida daily delivering pizza's like it is in the picture. Nobody wants to see a sweaty/smelly pizza delivery boy dripping sweat on their pepperoni.
I forgot to mention the front mounted aluminum fuel cell and weldon pump, how far can you go on your deliveries with that 2 gallon cell? haha
I forgot to mention the front mounted aluminum fuel cell and weldon pump, how far can you go on your deliveries with that 2 gallon cell? haha
vwjeff, thanks for pointing that out. The guy (who I still can't remember his name) from with the black AMS car is very cool, everytime I have met him he has been. Car looked great and ran great. It was on a trailer (I would to, that's a long drive) and on Hoosiers. Eric, Jeff and Tim drove there, least miles driven to and from race I'd say was 200 and the most was 600+. Times were from 10.0 to 10.4, MPH from 145-146 mph, all drove back home too, not a single problem from any of them.
One thing I've learned from racing all over the midwest (MI, OH, IN, IL, WI, KS) is that even though you have faith in the reliability of your car, having a trailer is good because sooner or later someone will need it. Things break. Maybe next race, maybe 2 years from now, but it's like the BoyScout motto - always be prepared. Not much worse than being stranded 1000 miles from home because of something stoopid - like messing around in the engine bay and accidently bumping the cam angle sensor and snapping it in half. . .
haha, OK not 10%, I believe the rule is 1%. My bad.
Evolutionary, I see you quoted me, please note that I said "I would too, that's a long drive). I believe if you go to a race and have access to a trailer you should damn well use it. I was NOT saying anyting negative about him. Is his name really David B.? hahaha if it is, that's hilarious. I thought it was Chris or something.
Evolutionary, I see you quoted me, please note that I said "I would too, that's a long drive). I believe if you go to a race and have access to a trailer you should damn well use it. I was NOT saying anyting negative about him. Is his name really David B.? hahaha if it is, that's hilarious. I thought it was Chris or something.
Yes, please do click the link. Watch the lights when the car leaves. They go off instantly like they should. See the door skin fly off AFTER the car crosses the line. Not that the door skin could have ACCELERATED past the car and tripped the lights anyway. Check out the times slip and see if anything looks out of place. 60ft looks right... MPH looks right...
If anything else... Its fun to say "We are so fast we blow our OWN doors off"
Anyway, that was last year... its a new season.


