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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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BTW
I did 9.2 that time with an old GT40R of a old used Honda turbo AKA GT40/67R

but don't you worry that we are also looking in to test the famous HTA

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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Procco, don't visit, bring your car and driver to Ohio, back up the talk. Bring it full weight with some pizza's in it and click off some 9.2's. Spectating and talking crap is for wussies, be a racer, bring the car.

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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Procco, don't visit, bring your car and driver to Ohio, back up the talk. Bring it full weight with some pizza's in it and click off some 9.2's. Spectating and talking crap is for wussies, be a racer, bring the car.
LOL... Time will tell
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ProccoEVO
Lol... you are taking notes so take this one Curt ran 9.34@ 152.3 on a prototype 35R and the 9.33@155.3 in a 37R

http://www.cbevo.com/


You should know this by heard also be cause thats the reason why you bought his car - allready to go strret race evo like they say in my hood that the easy way
That's because you're basing your knowledge on what you've read on the internet and what you've been told second hand. You don't have all the facts correct. I'll give you one fact that's not correct and although Mike's car was originally Curt's at one time it was not bought from him directly not to mention it was not ready to go race as you suggested. When you need to know the rest of the real facts you know who to call!

BTW. Speaking about facts!
Originally Posted by ProccoEVO
BTW
I did 9.2 that time with an old GT40R
You said 'I' in the above statemnt? Did you ment to say 'we' or the hired driver?
Just trying to get the 'facts' correct.

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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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vwjeff, thanks for pointing that out. The guy (who I still can't remember his name) from with the black AMS car is very cool, everytime I have met him he has been. Car looked great and ran great. It was on a trailer (I would to, that's a long drive) and on Hoosiers. Eric, Jeff and Tim drove there, least miles driven to and from race I'd say was 200 and the most was 600+. Times were from 10.0 to 10.4, MPH from 145-146 mph, all drove back home too, not a single problem from any of them.

My RS, for what it's worth, I don't know why the heater hose blew off. A long time ago I screwed up and cut the ends off the heater core where it sticks through the firewall. I thought it was the pipe for the A/C (yes, stupid). So the ends of my heater core do not have the factory bead roll on them, the hose is just pushed over the end of it, nothing to hold it. I never considered it before but it was pretty stupid. The hose came off and the clamp is inside the car. Is the engine or head gasket hurt? Maybe but I don't know. All I know is I am grateful Trent didn't get burnt. If the car is hurt big freaking deal, I'll fix it and go back out. Running times on par with GT42's with a 35r that was driven to the track and ran 9.4, four or five 9.5's and a 9.6 if it did get hurt it deserved to. My peak boost was 38 psi so I doubt it hurt it.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 9sec240
Funny... Was that not an AMS built Evo that won the DOT class with the new "35R killer" turbo.....
Originally Posted by vwjeff
It came in on a trailer. The rest of us drove there. He was on DOT Hoosier, I was on Advans, he beat me by .3secs.
Congrats to him though, a win is a win
As said above, the AMS car was on Hoosier Quicktime Pro's. He went .07 seconds and 2 MPH faster than my car on crappy street tires. Hardly a 35R killer.

I also drove 600 miles round trip....not on a trailer.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur

Something else, Procco, Curt had a standard 35r, the HTA wasn't even close to release yet, I got the first one and tested it, so I am certain. I also remember last year you were running your mouth how your car was going 8's and were going to beat us and AMS with Titan's help. What happened? Now you are back at CFT? I'm surprised they would even talk to you after the crap from last year.
Anything is posible @ Force Performance so don't state that the HTA was not been done as one off prototype!

Robert will do anything to innovate anyturbo thats what they do and thats how is done true the people in the racing scene!

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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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This is all pretty stupid.

I am getting pissed off again for nothing.

Here are the facts:

AMS is the quickest EVO 8, end of story, regardless of 8.56 or 8.71, quicker than we are.

Buschur Racing is the fastest, 172.74 mph and that was on IRS.

Curt Brown holds the ET record for a GT35r at 9.33.

David Buschur holds the MPH record for a HTA35r at 155.51 and Trent as the wheel man. THANKS TRENT!

The next thing that is going to happen is SOMEONE is going to go quicker and faster than all of those times. Who is it going to be? Nobody knows for sure.

At the end of the day two things are remembered, WHO IS THE QUICKEST AND WHO IS THE FASTEST.

At the end of the day I WANT TO BE REMEMBERED.

This fighting is pointless and is going to get all of nowhere. A few years ago someone asked "Who is going to have the fastest EVO?" My answer has not changed and is, "Who ever sticks with it the longest and spends the most money." It takes time and money mostly. Both of those will get you everything else you are looking for. You can find and hire talent with time, if you can afford it.

I was dead set against ever gutting an EVO and ruining a perfectly freaking awesome car. We had no choice as nobody said, "Well Buschur is the best because they can run 10.0 in a full weight EVO that can go on a road course with the a/c on." They said "TT (at that time) is the fastest", there was no statement like this, "TT is the fastest but it's a gutted POS that can only drag race." (not referring to their car as a POS, just making a point)

At the end of the day it's who is setting the record that is remembered.

We all better get to work.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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I think DB handles being on top rather well. For all the haters, remember:
To cure jealousy is to see it for what it is, a dissatisfaction with one self.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ProccoEVO
I almost got dizzy reading your post

I'll see about going up there? all depends on fuel fund but maybe will visit to see what you and AMS can do on that new set ups!
dude you are all talk... fuel funds?
Ricer excuse #1. My car is "fast" but gas is expensive, so I will proly just watch this 1.

If you do come up man, I like yellow peppers and extra cheese. Don't worry I will pay you for the pie, that way you have money for gas.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Our car is NOT back halved. The stock wheel wells are still in it. We simply added a Ford 8.8 rear end.
You guys want to whine about our rearend?
Some don't have the knowledge or the experience to know that there's a difference. Normally those are the same ones that destroy the main body structure engineered from factory to have a stable chassis neccessary for at least applying a lot of power to the pavement safely.
Let's see how much of these cry babies actually show up for the DSM/EVO shootout
Cry babies stay and fight on the internet with their dyno sheets.
Real racers take it to the track and do real battle. That win light the lights up brightly at the end of the track is what really matters!
Some will just never get that point.

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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
That's because you're basing your knowledge on what you've read on the internet and what you've been told second hand. You don't have all the facts correct. I'll give you one fact that's not correct and although Mike's car was originally Curt's at one time it was not bought from him directly not to mention it was not ready to go race as you suggested. When you need to know the rest of the real facts you know who to call!

BTW. Speaking about facts!


You said 'I' in the above statemnt? Did you ment to say 'we' or the hired driver?
Just trying to get the 'facts' correct.
here's a nice pic so you can learn and take ideas


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and next turbo mag issue

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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur

Next and something I have held back for over a year, this is directed at 9sec240. The AMS car has gone quicker than our car and was MUCH lighter than our car. Carbon fiber roof, doors, B-pillars gutted etc. etc. You didn't see my cry. We still have the highest MPH record and that was from when we were IRS. Also, if there is any rule that should be made it should be that any record run needs to be backed up atleast somewhat the same day. As far as I am honestly concerned the quickest the car has gone is 8.71. The 8.56 was a fluke, the car didn't even run in the 8's again the entire day, before or after that run. The drivers door flew off and the biggest problem I have is the car in the other lane on the 8.56 run was a mid 10 second DSM, it ran an 8.42. No way that ET should even stand, did you ever hear me say that before? NO you did not. Did you hear me cry about it? NO you did not. Should anyone with even a ounce of common sense say that the time is BS? Yes of course. Stop crying, stop whining.

I appreciate your comments Dave. The AMS car is not my car. I think if you saw MY car, you would see that we agree on many things.... especially what a drag car "should" be.
Let me address a few things you stated.

Comparing theoretical weights of the two cars are like stating "on a DynoJet this car would make xxx HP" Until both cars get on the same scales, its all just a guess at best.

Evos running as quick as the AMS, BR, etc drag cars will always have a hard time backing runs up in the same day due to reliability issues of pushing them so hard. Did your Evo back up the 172 on the same outing (or at all for that matter)?

A portion of the door SKIN came off the AMS Evo. Not the door. Unfortunately the epoxy holding the inner and outer layers of carbon fiber was not up to the task.

Isnt the highly touted BR built Bad Bish II from NY running not only carbon front doors but carbon rear doors too? I would think you wouldnt care what doors the AMS Evo had on it.

While you personally have not made mention of the gripes you have with the AMS car, your spokesperson does it for you. I am sure you know who I mean.

I am not crying or whining. I am simply stating that you have taken your Evo out of the "class" that everybody else is playing in.




Originally Posted by davidbuschur
Our car is NOT back halved. The stock wheel wells are still in it. We simply added a Ford 8.8 rear end. We kept it quiet all winter for two reasons, first is I didn't want to hear the exact people who are crying now cry all winter and the other is we didn't want it copied before we could finish ours. Let me tell you now, the cry babies will soon end up following along just as they have for the last 20 years of our building 4g63's and related parts.
Your car IS back halved. Your car is NOT tubbed.

It is possible that others may also back half their cars but I dont think its likely.

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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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This thread: a simple thread turned nothing but arguing

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