Any results or times from the shoot out
Well anyways this thread is for results of those who busted there humps to make the event and ran hella great times.congrats to all who made it,the evo is a lethal street weapon!!!
thanks to buscher for actually stepping up and putting up a GOOD import event or two every year aswell!!
thanks to buscher for actually stepping up and putting up a GOOD import event or two every year aswell!!
stiguy35r, thanks for posting up that video. Would you mind throwing it up on our forums too? www.buschurracing.com
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yes there a vendor spots left for the shootout.
Yes, a solid rear axle has been allowed in Q16, always. As I stated already, John's car has been accepted as it was left AWD with a MITSUBISHI 5 speed transmission. I've been around this since the very begining and have seen all this stuff take place and work its way out already. RWD stuff has been shunned by many, I know, we've built quite a few of them.
We could have easily went RWD with this project and put in a real transmission, this would have let us go 7's the first pass of the day and just progressed from there. I didn't want to go that route again as a lot of people do not respect the change to RWD, that is why we went this route.
Some of you should be really careful about how vocal you are because if history is any indication of what is going to happen it won't be long before what we did is copied by some of you.
My input on what should be considered an EVO and not considered an EVO is simple. I am also basing this on the last 20 years of DSM/EVO racing I have been involved with.
As long as the car is still AWD unibody, uses a 4G63 and a factory transmission case then it is considered a DSM or a EVO. It's pretty simple and the past has dictated that those things are what is accepted.
Listening to you all argue doesn't mean much to me today. We are going to run the car and hopefully be fast. If some of you guys want to not consider it an EVO that's your issue. If you come to a shootout though you may end up lined up next to it and IF you lose I can gaurantee the announcer doesn't say, "Buschur won but only because he had a different rear end."
Have a good day.
Yes, a solid rear axle has been allowed in Q16, always. As I stated already, John's car has been accepted as it was left AWD with a MITSUBISHI 5 speed transmission. I've been around this since the very begining and have seen all this stuff take place and work its way out already. RWD stuff has been shunned by many, I know, we've built quite a few of them.
We could have easily went RWD with this project and put in a real transmission, this would have let us go 7's the first pass of the day and just progressed from there. I didn't want to go that route again as a lot of people do not respect the change to RWD, that is why we went this route.
Some of you should be really careful about how vocal you are because if history is any indication of what is going to happen it won't be long before what we did is copied by some of you.
My input on what should be considered an EVO and not considered an EVO is simple. I am also basing this on the last 20 years of DSM/EVO racing I have been involved with.
As long as the car is still AWD unibody, uses a 4G63 and a factory transmission case then it is considered a DSM or a EVO. It's pretty simple and the past has dictated that those things are what is accepted.
Listening to you all argue doesn't mean much to me today. We are going to run the car and hopefully be fast. If some of you guys want to not consider it an EVO that's your issue. If you come to a shootout though you may end up lined up next to it and IF you lose I can gaurantee the announcer doesn't say, "Buschur won but only because he had a different rear end."
Have a good day.
I got to page 14 and put my hands up. Ridiculous thread. I dont even want to come to evom anymore.
I loved watching FWD hondas go low nines on stock honda trannies. Amazing. I stopped watching when they switched to american trans and fibre bodies to go faster. No longer a Honda platform.
I watched shepard go faster and faster. I lost interest when I saw the american rear end in the car. no longer a mitsu platform.
I watched brent rau go fast in his awd talon and loved it. Never cared about what he did with fibre body RWD contraption.
I guess you know what my opinion is on putting an american rear end in a 5 year old evo. obnoxious. I guess its okay for him since its so important to stay on top of the charts. I'll keep watching the white car. I just lost respect for the black car.
The "platform" is the very heart and soul of a car. Thats what defines the car. The drivetrain it came with from the factory.. Once the trans or rear end is changed to a different manufacture the heart and soul of car is lost. why not allow the engine to be changed if anything goes in racing?
I thought import racing was awesome years ago. I went to many events. Then it started to get big. NHRA stepped in and made the rules. What it turned into was american made cars with import engines. whatever. I havent been to an import event in years. I just wanted throw up looking at the cars.
I loved watching FWD hondas go low nines on stock honda trannies. Amazing. I stopped watching when they switched to american trans and fibre bodies to go faster. No longer a Honda platform.
I watched shepard go faster and faster. I lost interest when I saw the american rear end in the car. no longer a mitsu platform.
I watched brent rau go fast in his awd talon and loved it. Never cared about what he did with fibre body RWD contraption.
I guess you know what my opinion is on putting an american rear end in a 5 year old evo. obnoxious. I guess its okay for him since its so important to stay on top of the charts. I'll keep watching the white car. I just lost respect for the black car.
The "platform" is the very heart and soul of a car. Thats what defines the car. The drivetrain it came with from the factory.. Once the trans or rear end is changed to a different manufacture the heart and soul of car is lost. why not allow the engine to be changed if anything goes in racing?
I thought import racing was awesome years ago. I went to many events. Then it started to get big. NHRA stepped in and made the rules. What it turned into was american made cars with import engines. whatever. I havent been to an import event in years. I just wanted throw up looking at the cars.
I understand Davids point of wanting a more reliable car which make sense but from Mitsu love i agree with 94awd
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I would expect an onlooker to lose interest when it broke 6 rear diffs in 2 races and looked like a pile of **** on the track. I did what I had to do to not look like a joke and yet still try and retain the respect of having an awd. The solid is not a performance enhancing mod it is a reliability mod.
I also didnt read much of this thread but did happen to catch this.
I would expect an onlooker to lose interest when it broke 6 rear diffs in 2 races and looked like a pile of **** on the track. I did what I had to do to not look like a joke and yet still try and retain the respect of having an awd. The solid is not a performance enhancing mod it is a reliability mod.
I would expect an onlooker to lose interest when it broke 6 rear diffs in 2 races and looked like a pile of **** on the track. I did what I had to do to not look like a joke and yet still try and retain the respect of having an awd. The solid is not a performance enhancing mod it is a reliability mod.
Congratulations to the haters . We had a little race up here in Indy and some industry heavy hitters were in town , I showed them the forum and guess what they saw? They all said there is no way there getting involved with anything to do with Evolutions after seeing first hand what happens on this forum, and I for one can’t blame them. Then they asked why I was interested in getting involved in something so screwed up and that I should drop this deal and get back to real racing. Possibly the best advice I’ve gotten in awhile. Great job showing your ***, what they could have brought to the table would have been big. Thank You, Indy... BTW my RS is now for sale, thanks for ruining another hobby.
In regards to the "drama" I say run what you got, it's a EVO I don't think there should be some "Special kids group" just because you have a bigger rear end
who cares.. your smart for doing it.. who wants to replace something 10x when you can do it ONCE, the right way... this should have been done a long time ago the only reason people are giving 2 SH*TS is because this board is like a GANG wars everyone has to have a side and no one can see eye to eye.
This is better then the presidential election. Hell even Jshepard himself had to post 16 post in 5 years. Dont worry shep I dont care if your car is power by a space shuttle engine running a carbon fiber tube frame, racing down hill on a sunday during a total eclipse I will still respect you for what you have down for all DSM'ers besides when it all boils down to it us average joes that dont own shops can always rely on shep for an affordable well built trany or any other drive train part.
I also didnt read much of this thread but did happen to catch this.
I would expect an onlooker to lose interest when it broke 6 rear diffs in 2 races and looked like a pile of **** on the track. I did what I had to do to not look like a joke and yet still try and retain the respect of having an awd. The solid is not a performance enhancing mod it is a reliability mod.
I would expect an onlooker to lose interest when it broke 6 rear diffs in 2 races and looked like a pile of **** on the track. I did what I had to do to not look like a joke and yet still try and retain the respect of having an awd. The solid is not a performance enhancing mod it is a reliability mod.
Exactly what I was saying in my post a few pages back, thanks for chiming in John!
Reliability vs a couple of tenths, I will take the reliability any day of the week!
You've gotta be kidding me, do you live in a communist country or what.. are people not allowed to have opinions about things?, I think the EVO Community is better off if you sell you car if that's the retarded attitude you bring to the board.
In regards to the "drama" I say run what you got, it's a EVO I don't think there should be some "Special kids group" just because you have a bigger rear end who cares.. your smart for doing it.. who wants to replace something 10x when you can do it ONCE, the right way... this should have been done a long time ago the only reason people are giving 2 SH*TS is because this board is like a GANG wars everyone has to have a side and no one can see eye to eye.
In regards to the "drama" I say run what you got, it's a EVO I don't think there should be some "Special kids group" just because you have a bigger rear end
who cares.. your smart for doing it.. who wants to replace something 10x when you can do it ONCE, the right way... this should have been done a long time ago the only reason people are giving 2 SH*TS is because this board is like a GANG wars everyone has to have a side and no one can see eye to eye.By the way, this is my one and only post in this entire thread.
Holy crap 28 pages of pure bashing, this is insane.
Hope its all sorted out cause it does not help the rep of any of the shops involved. Some of us that are not biased do not care, but others oh my this really went ahead of any bashing I've ever seen in here.
Hope its all sorted out cause it does not help the rep of any of the shops involved. Some of us that are not biased do not care, but others oh my this really went ahead of any bashing I've ever seen in here.